Inconvenient Censorship

[scooterbug44]

I couldn't agree more with your last statement. I also think there are many scientists fearful of losing their grants for speaking out about global warming. There are too many important people in the world married to this idea for it to be proven false. If it were proven as false, can you imagine the shame and embarrassment in addition to the wasted time/money that have been invested into this movement?

There are always many important people married to the idea that scientists are trying to disprove - that isn't a new development or concern .................... or one that is going to go away.

Political pressure and persecution of scientists for contradicting popularly held beliefs has been going on for thousands of years. Lack of funding for your research or being denied tenure pales in comparison w/ torture, imprisonment, death, and being denied a proper burial.

 

[beachmouse]

I'm not sure how this counts as censorship. The school isn't complaining about the content of the transcript or the spreading of what was in the transcript. What they're doing is exercising their right to regulate an outside group filming on their private property for commercial gain, and said outside group's values may not reflect the values of the school itself. And Schneider has the right to control and license the use of his image in regard to his career.

As it happens in many of these types of cases, however, Stanford not allowing the use of the film ends up making the school look rather foolish and gives greater visibility to a film project that the school probably wishes would go away.

If they'd allowed the used of the film in the documentary, the project wouldn't have gotten a tenth of the publicity it has.

 

[poppy]

how stupid is that comment! isnt it liberalism ie al gore that only listens to those who agree with him? ill never know where thoughts like yours come from

You truly are the clueless one aren't you.


Bush Suppresses GE Crop Warnings | Greenpeace USA

Oct 19, 2004 ... Surprise, surprise: the Bush administration is attempting to suppress the ... The CEC's scientific findings on Maize contamination in Mexico ...
www.greenpeace.org/usa/.../bush-suppresses-ge-crop-warnin

The Statement - Defend Science

... distort, or outright suppress scientific findings they find objectionable; ... denounces the Bush Administration for "abuse of science"; and Scientific ...
www.defendscience.org/statement.html -

Scientists Say Bush Stifles Science and Lets Global Leadership ...

Jan 30, 2008 ... Not just Bush. Suppressing science to suit policy is nothing new, ... A broad and concerted effort to question scientific findings has ...
www.livescience.com/technology/080130-bush-legacy.html -

New report accuses Bush of suppressing research data - Elsevier

Mar 11, 2004 ... It said: “There is a well-established pattern of suppression and distortion of scientific findings by high-ranking Bush administration ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0140673604157826 -

Geotimes - June 2004 - Political Scene

Mar 19, 2004 ... Debate over the Bush administration's use of scientific ... scientific findings to bolster its political agenda. ... The Waxman and UCS reports point to several examples of scientific evidence being suppressed in the ...
www.geotimes.org/july04/scene.html

Bush accused of distorting evidence on climate change

2 posts - Last post: Jan 30, 2007
The Bush administration has been accused of routinely misleading the ... and of orchestrating efforts to try to suppress scientific findings ...
www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message337583/pg1

MIT Western Hemisphere Project: Investigating the Bush ...

Findings: (1) High-ranking political appointees in the Bush Administration have repeatedly suppressed & distorted scientific findings, with adverse ...
web.mit.edu/hemisphere/events/bush-science.shtml -

Ventana Chapter - The environmental LIES of George W. Bush

As part of the policy of denial Bush tried to suppress other information on global ... changes that were not true or that distorted the scientific findings. ...
ventana.sierraclub.org/back_issues/0306/bush_lies.shtml

Government Scientists Accuse Bush Administration of Interfering ...

Jan 31, 2007 ... While it was frustrating for me to see my work suppressed, ... Shindell about how the Bush administration has altered scientific reports to ...
www.democracynow.org/.../government_scientists_accuse_bush_administration_of

Science, policy, and partisan politics :The Scientist [13/8/2003]

The Bush administration has repeatedly manipulated the scientific process and distorted or suppressed scientific findings to advance political and ...

 

[AlphaCrab]

how stupid is that comment! isnt it liberalism ie al gore that only listens to those who agree with him? ill never know where thoughts like yours come from

Not to be disrespectful, but do you really care where any opposing thoughts come from? I think there is a lot of suppressed anger being vented in an , than there is any real thoughtfulness.

And saying Al Gore (i.e.) represent Liberal philosophy is like saying Sarah Palin represents all Conservative thought.

 

[mtlinscomb]

U.S. Congressman Dana Rohrabacher : 46th District Of California

During the entire Clinton administration, scientists produced study after study predicting the horrific impact of the unstoppable onslaught of man-made global warming, which we were all led to believe by those studies would be overwhelming us right now.
Of course, if there was even a hint that the conclusion of their research wouldn't back up the man-made global warming theory, the scientists and researchers wouldn't get one red cent from the Federal research pool during the Clinton and Gore administration.
In a September 2005 article from Discovery magazine, Dr. William Gray, now emeritus professor of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University and, more importantly, the former president of the American Meteorological Association, said that he had paid a price for his skepticism of man-made global warming. Quote, ``I had NOAA money for 30 years, for 30 some years,'' Dr. Gray said. ``And then, when the Clinton administration came in,'' and this is still part of the quote, ``and Gore started directing some of the environmental stuff, I was cut off. I couldn't get any money, any NOAA money. They turned down 13 straight proposals from me.''
Here's from one of America's great, eminent meteorologists, and the Clinton administration just kept turning him down because he had expressed some skepticism about whether man-made global warming was a reality. Dr. Gray made the mistake of being a skeptic about global warming. And however he was skeptic about that, that made him wrong with the Clinton administration.
But he was right about hurricanes which were being blamed on global warming. Remember, we were told that global warming was going to cause more hurricanes. And Dr. Gray, one of the great meteorologists, said there's no reliable data available to indicate increased hurricane frequency or intensity in any of the globe's seven tropical cyclone basins.''
So, with that type of skepticism, no matter what his credentials were, no matter how preeminent a scientist and respected scientist he was, he couldn't get a grant during the Clinton/Gore administration. So Dr. Gray was cut off. The predictors of gloom and doom were left to shout out their paranoid nonsense every time a hurricane was detected.

 

[poppy]

U.S. Congressman Dana Rohrabacher : 46th District Of California

During the entire Clinton administration, scientists produced study after study predicting the horrific impact of the unstoppable onslaught of man-made global warming, which we were all led to believe by those studies would be overwhelming us right now.
Of course, if there was even a hint that the conclusion of their research wouldn't back up the man-made global warming theory, the scientists and researchers wouldn't get one red cent from the Federal research pool during the Clinton and Gore administration.
In a September 2005 article from Discovery magazine, Dr. William Gray, now emeritus professor of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University and, more importantly, the former president of the American Meteorological Association, said that he had paid a price for his skepticism of man-made global warming. Quote, ``I had NOAA money for 30 years, for 30 some years,'' Dr. Gray said. ``And then, when the Clinton administration came in,'' and this is still part of the quote, ``and Gore started directing some of the environmental stuff, I was cut off. I couldn't get any money, any NOAA money. They turned down 13 straight proposals from me.''
Here's from one of America's great, eminent meteorologists, and the Clinton administration just kept turning him down because he had expressed some skepticism about whether man-made global warming was a reality. Dr. Gray made the mistake of being a skeptic about global warming. And however he was skeptic about that, that made him wrong with the Clinton administration.
But he was right about hurricanes which were being blamed on global warming. Remember, we were told that global warming was going to cause more hurricanes. And Dr. Gray, one of the great meteorologists, said there's no reliable data available to indicate increased hurricane frequency or intensity in any of the globe's seven tropical cyclone basins.''
So, with that type of skepticism, no matter what his credentials were, no matter how preeminent a scientist and respected scientist he was, he couldn't get a grant during the Clinton/Gore administration. So Dr. Gray was cut off. The predictors of gloom and doom were left to shout out their paranoid nonsense every time a hurricane was detected.

Gotta love Dana Rohrabacher

The House Subcommittee on International Organizations, Human Rights and Oversight met today to discuss issues of sovereignty and stability in Iraq ranging from the country's longstanding financial obligation to neighboring Kuwait to its even longer-standing issues with the Kurdish people. But Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) seemed mostly interested in berating the Iraqis for their lack of gratitude
At the hearing, Saleh al Mutlaq and former Iraqi interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, both members of Iraq's Council of Representatives, spoke about Iraq's future and the importance of the country's upcoming elections.
Mutlaq called for a "moral and responsible" withdrawal of U.S. troops saying that the invasion of his country was "irresponsible."
Worried that violence and intimidation from Iraq's ruling party could distort the outcome of the January election, Allawi stressed the need for election monitoring from institutions such as the United Nations, the Arab League and other NGOs along with the United States.
Then Rohrabacher opened his mouth.
"I have never heard one word of gratitude from the Iraqi people about the 4,300 Americans who lost their lives," he exclaimed.
"We went to Iraq to try and free your people and now we're being blamed for sectarian violence," he said. "Don't blame us because that type of bloodlust exists in your society."
A defiant Mutlaq responded, "You were the ones who pushed your troops. We did not invite you."
It was at this point that an exasperated Rohrabacher threw up his hands and stormed out of the room.
It was only in the aftermath of Rohrabacher's tantrum that Rep. Bill Delahunt (D-MA) quietly stated that weapons of mass destruction, and not Iraqi freedom, were the reason the U.S. invaded Iraq.
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[kkddbb]

Not to be disrespectful, but do you really care where any opposing thoughts come from? I think there is a lot of suppressed anger being vented in an , than there is any real thoughtfulness.

And saying Al Gore (i.e.) represent Liberal philosophy is like saying Sarah Palin represents all Conservative thought.

if you think al gore doesnt rep lib philisophy than i got water front property on the yellow brick road ill sell ya.

 

[kkddbb]

You truly are the clueless one aren't you.


Bush Suppresses GE Crop Warnings | Greenpeace USA

Oct 19, 2004 ... Surprise, surprise: the Bush administration is attempting to suppress the ... The CEC's scientific findings on Maize contamination in Mexico ...
www.greenpeace.org/usa/.../bush-suppresses-ge-crop-warnin

The Statement - Defend Science

... distort, or outright suppress scientific findings they find objectionable; ... denounces the Bush Administration for "abuse of science"; and Scientific ...
www.defendscience.org/statement.html -

Scientists Say Bush Stifles Science and Lets Global Leadership ...

Jan 30, 2008 ... Not just Bush. Suppressing science to suit policy is nothing new, ... A broad and concerted effort to question scientific findings has ...
www.livescience.com/technology/080130-bush-legacy.html -

New report accuses Bush of suppressing research data - Elsevier

Mar 11, 2004 ... It said: ?There is a well-established pattern of suppression and distortion of scientific findings by high-ranking Bush administration ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0140673604157826 -

Geotimes - June 2004 - Political Scene

Mar 19, 2004 ... Debate over the Bush administration's use of scientific ... scientific findings to bolster its political agenda. ... The Waxman and UCS reports point to several examples of scientific evidence being suppressed in the ...
www.geotimes.org/july04/scene.html

Bush accused of distorting evidence on climate change

2 posts - Last post: Jan 30, 2007
The Bush administration has been accused of routinely misleading the ... and of orchestrating efforts to try to suppress scientific findings ...
www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message337583/pg1

MIT Western Hemisphere Project: Investigating the Bush ...

Findings: (1) High-ranking political appointees in the Bush Administration have repeatedly suppressed & distorted scientific findings, with adverse ...
web.mit.edu/hemisphere/events/bush-science.shtml -

Ventana Chapter - The environmental LIES of George W. Bush

As part of the policy of denial Bush tried to suppress other information on global ... changes that were not true or that distorted the scientific findings. ...
ventana.sierraclub.org/back_issues/0306/bush_lies.shtml

Government Scientists Accuse Bush Administration of Interfering ...

Jan 31, 2007 ... While it was frustrating for me to see my work suppressed, ... Shindell about how the Bush administration has altered scientific reports to ...
www.democracynow.org/.../government_scientists_accuse_bush_administration_of

Science, policy, and partisan politics :The Scientist [13/8/2003]

The Bush administration has repeatedly manipulated the scientific process and distorted or suppressed scientific findings to advance political and ...

and...... do you really want me to waste my time and post what the left does to ignore science in the name of politics? i mean, really. i wish i had as much time as you do. you got to love the left whey they accuse others of putting politics first...

 

[kkddbb]

You truly are the clueless one aren't you.


Bush Suppresses GE Crop Warnings | Greenpeace USA

Oct 19, 2004 ... Surprise, surprise: the Bush administration is attempting to suppress the ... The CEC's scientific findings on Maize contamination in Mexico ...
www.greenpeace.org/usa/.../bush-suppresses-ge-crop-warnin

The Statement - Defend Science

... distort, or outright suppress scientific findings they find objectionable; ... denounces the Bush Administration for "abuse of science"; and Scientific ...
www.defendscience.org/statement.html -

Scientists Say Bush Stifles Science and Lets Global Leadership ...

Jan 30, 2008 ... Not just Bush. Suppressing science to suit policy is nothing new, ... A broad and concerted effort to question scientific findings has ...
www.livescience.com/technology/080130-bush-legacy.html -

New report accuses Bush of suppressing research data - Elsevier

Mar 11, 2004 ... It said: ?There is a well-established pattern of suppression and distortion of scientific findings by high-ranking Bush administration ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0140673604157826 -

Geotimes - June 2004 - Political Scene

Mar 19, 2004 ... Debate over the Bush administration's use of scientific ... scientific findings to bolster its political agenda. ... The Waxman and UCS reports point to several examples of scientific evidence being suppressed in the ...
www.geotimes.org/july04/scene.html

Bush accused of distorting evidence on climate change

2 posts - Last post: Jan 30, 2007
The Bush administration has been accused of routinely misleading the ... and of orchestrating efforts to try to suppress scientific findings ...
www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message337583/pg1

MIT Western Hemisphere Project: Investigating the Bush ...

Findings: (1) High-ranking political appointees in the Bush Administration have repeatedly suppressed & distorted scientific findings, with adverse ...
web.mit.edu/hemisphere/events/bush-science.shtml -

Ventana Chapter - The environmental LIES of George W. Bush

As part of the policy of denial Bush tried to suppress other information on global ... changes that were not true or that distorted the scientific findings. ...
ventana.sierraclub.org/back_issues/0306/bush_lies.shtml

Government Scientists Accuse Bush Administration of Interfering ...

Jan 31, 2007 ... While it was frustrating for me to see my work suppressed, ... Shindell about how the Bush administration has altered scientific reports to ...
www.democracynow.org/.../government_scientists_accuse_bush_administration_of

Science, policy, and partisan politics :The Scientist [13/8/2003]

The Bush administration has repeatedly manipulated the scientific process and distorted or suppressed scientific findings to advance political and ...

and...... do you really want me to waste my time and post what the left does to ignore science in the name of politics? i mean, really. i wish i had as much time as you do. you got to love the left whey they accuse others of putting politics first....

greenpeace and democracy now? are you kidding me? is this the same greenpeace that admitted emotions were their deciding factor?

im a practicing environmentalist and its this nonsense that prevents real change when it comes to mother nature. politics from both sides are not only making it worse, they are pushing even further way the actual problem. you got the far left lying and distoring and the far right doesnt want to hear it. fact is we're in a cooling stage now and ill wait to see what mother nature does on her own, but that doesnt mean we stop caring and taking care of her. it does mean we dont destroy the economy for the sake of saving the planet....pure rhetoric

 

[poppy]

and...... do you really want me to waste my time and post what the left does to ignore science in the name of politics? i mean, really. i wish i had as much time as you do. you got to love the left whey they accuse others of putting politics first...

Yes! stop with the same old finger pointing and waste some your time posting something, anything to support your views. If you do this one thing you will gain a small measure of respect and who knows, it could help you gain credibility.