Limbaugh hospitalized

[Lynnie]

. Wow

 

[Andy A]

Ah! So it shifts the responsibility onto some cosmic force. The karma believer is just an observer. Reminds me of Christians who tell you that you're going to hell. Not that they want you to (yeah right). No they just feel certain that it's going to happen. It's ridiculous. If I believed in karma, I would have to think that belief in karma is bad karma.

The skeptic's dictionary says it better than I could. karma - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com

Here's an excerpt:

Karma is a law for sheep. We should not wonder that the shepherds advocate it. It is a law for the passive, for those who will not disturb the status quo, who will accept whatever evil is done as "natural" and inevitable. Karma is a law for slaves, for the vanquished.

How come I find myself totally agreeing with so many of your posts lately? It is a nice change and not due to Karma, IMO. Happy New Year, LS, and I hope it will be a prosperous one for you.
P.S. I'll disagree with you later

 

[Alicia Leonard]

Ah! So it shifts the responsibility onto some cosmic force. The karma believer is just an observer. Reminds me of Christians who tell you that you're going to hell. Not that they want you to (yeah right). No they just feel certain that it's going to happen. It's ridiculous. If I believed in karma, I would have to think that belief in karma is bad karma.

The skeptic's dictionary says it better than I could. karma - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com

Here's an excerpt:

Karma is a law for sheep. We should not wonder that the shepherds advocate it. It is a law for the passive, for those who will not disturb the status quo, who will accept whatever evil is done as "natural" and inevitable. Karma is a law for slaves, for the vanquished.

Like someone posted before, I believe Karma is tied into The Golden Rule, and I believe it to be an active behavior you can live everyday, where the responsibility for your behavior and your treatment of others lay firmly on your shoulders and are not passive in the least. Karma is being responsible for what you put into the world and how you handle what gets sent back to you.

 

[scooterbug44]

Just as my ideas of Christianity do not jibe with many stated/written opinions, I also have my own ideas about karma.

You can nitpick all you want, but at the end of the day, I will be better off operating on the belief that treating others well, minimizing negatives, and trying to make positive changes in your world is a good thing.

 

[Miss Critter]

How does karma relate to the individuals who are found innocent after spending decades behind bars? Would you have us believe Karma punished them for offenses unknown to us? If so, we could use Karma to justify every wrongful imprisonment by claiming they must have done something wrong for if not they would never have been found guilty.

Not to get too metaphysical here, but my personal belief is that the "misfortune" we suffer in this lifetime is a soul lesson that we are here to learn. I believe in the evolution of the soul over multiple lifetimes, and that we have the choice (free will) to evolve or not as the result of our circumstances. Karma's recourse isn't limited to the lifetime in which the error is committed. Although my body is limited to this incarnation, my soul, being eternal, is not. Therefore, I believe that at some point in this or another incarnation, I'll either suffer or benefit from my actions today. That's why when "karma" is instant, we feel life is fair. But when karma is delayed (like when the pedophile wins the lottery), we are certain that it is not.

Recognizing the ego for what is is - the cause of human suffering and discord - is the first step in spiritual evolution. Based on his public persona, Rush is nearly all ego, which is why I find him difficult to stomach. The fact that he uses his "talent on loan from God" to appeal to the ego in others through fear and divisiveness is unfortunate. He could better use his talent for public speaking and persuasion in a more useful way, imo. Appealing to the spirit does not ignore injustice. Jesus and Ghandi, for instance, come to mind as great teachers who chose to "fight" injustice through encouraging others to focus on spiritual development. It is the only method that will work if we ever hope to have peace, either as individuals or as a society.

 

[LuciferSam]

Just as my ideas of Christianity do not jibe with many stated/written opinions, I also have my own ideas about karma.

You can nitpick all you want, but at the end of the day, I will be better off operating on the belief that treating others well, minimizing negatives, and trying to make positive changes in your world is a good thing.

I think you can abide by the teachings without chugging the koolaid. Even LaVeyan Satanism has some positive common sense teachings.

 

[LuciferSam]

How come I find myself totally agreeing with so many of your posts lately? It is a nice change and not due to Karma, IMO. Happy New Year, LS, and I hope it will be a prosperous one for you.
P.S. I'll disagree with you later

Thank you same to you. I guess I've been saving up some of my opinions where we happen to agree. I'm not going to say much more on Karma and reincarnation etc. other than to say I think it's utter nonsense and belief in it is not conducive to good living in my opinion.

 

[LuciferSam]

Couldn't resist

Karma IS dogma.

 

[Teresa]

this is a very interesting thread. love it. not the Rush part, but the philosophical part.