Lowering the speed limit on 30A?

[Jdarg]

Spring breakers are here ............... and some in my neighborhood rented a cart/LSV from a local company.

Yesterday they confirmed every safety concern/prediction of bad behavior people have posted in this thread.

I have been keeping a count as I drive around this week. Out of 9 golfcarts/LSVs/deathcarts, one looked like the occupants might stand a chance of making it alive through the week. One had a baby in mom's arms (at least this time Mom wasn't driving like the last unsecured baby I saw!) One had so many teenagers in it, it was almost dragging on the road, plus it was going so fast that if it had to stop quickly, most of the kids hanging off the sides would have flown off. To sum it up- only 1 out of 9 appeared to drive in a safe and intelligent manner.

The biggest concern should be the large numbers of visitors, many of them young drivers, who are too busy driving and looking around- and not looking at the road. I am scared to be in a Yukon with these people driving around right now, and I certainly wouldn't want to be in a vehicle without doors- I really don't want to change my kids diapers again, and I don't want anyone to change mine. Between the golf carts and the scooters, it's going to be a nerve-wracking tourist season.

 

[robertsondavies]

I feel like we are on the cusp of a very progressive movement here...in a way that is different from most communities. Its hard to deny that there is a world-wide advancement to "green" vehicles, cars and hybrids. Awesome. But 30a is different because of that unique resort-FEEL. (I know there are lots of different resort communities, but Jeffersondavies has a point in that they all FEEL as part of the same community and this forum attests to that.) We CAN do green here like many places can't. We have an opportunity to be progressive and unique. I think LSV's are a step. I think they embrace the lifestyle and genuine quality of life that 30a is known for...

At the very least, it is worth looking into further.

Careful with the above NR. They've been declared radical, insane, ramblings. oh yeah, its Robertsondavies, but I like the allusion to the confederacy above.

 

[30A Skunkape]

So I was running on the Timpoochee Trail roll yesterday. Just about even with the entrance to Grayton State Park, what do I see heading westbound on 30-A but a golf cart with a loooong line of cars behind it. I have to hand it to the 'golfer', he pulled over by the trailhead on the north side of the road and let the annoyed motorists pass. I did notice the roof of the cart said 'rent me' and there was an 850 number. It also had a Florida license plate on the back. Two thoughts-First, I can kick myself for not being quicker with my camera phone and second, get that golf cart off the highway!

Oh yeah, who is the menace that is renting these things? I already curse the outfit that rents mopeds and would like to spread the well wishes.

 

[Matt J]

So I was running on the Timpoochee Trail roll yesterday. Just about even with the entrance to Grayton State Park, what do I see heading westbound on 30-A but a golf cart with a loooong line of cars behind it. I have to hand it to the 'golfer', he pulled over by the trailhead on the north side of the road and let the annoyed motorists pass. I did notice the roof of the cart said 'rent me' and there was an 850 number. It also had a Florida license plate on the back. Two thoughts-First, I can kick myself for not being quicker with my camera phone and second, get that golf cart off the highway!

Oh yeah, who is the menace that is renting these things? I already curse the outfit that rents mopeds and would like to spread the well wishes.

I believe they are one in the same.

 

[robertsondavies]

So I was running on the Timpoochee Trail roll yesterday. Just about even with the entrance to Grayton State Park, what do I see heading westbound on 30-A but a golf cart with a loooong line of cars behind it. I have to hand it to the 'golfer', he pulled over by the trailhead on the north side of the road and let the annoyed motorists pass. I did notice the roof of the cart said 'rent me' and there was an 850 number. It also had a Florida license plate on the back. Two thoughts-First, I can kick myself for not being quicker with my camera phone and second, get that golf cart off the highway!

Oh yeah, who is the menace that is renting these things? I already curse the outfit that rents mopeds and would like to spread the well wishes.

That stinks that the guy was going that slow. Nice that he pulled over asap though.

Not sure who local purveyors are, but if you google LSV, you'll find many many new corporations being formed, and some old ones tackling the concept. The Sierra Club (fairly well respected I think) supports the LSV, as do 48 State legislatures, but not sure who the local culprit is, exactly - but I plan on paying them a visit soon, to pull down a Tax Credit on one of these asap.

 

[Geo]

Rdavies, I have checked into this thread on occasion and I get the impression from those posts of yours which I've read that you believe that folks who don't want golf carts on 30a also don't support green initiatives, like big SUVs, are Republicans, are anti new urbanism, are for ridonkulous solutions like over and under passes and are intolerant of opinions different from their own...

Are my assumptions about your assumptions correct?

 

[Bob Wells]

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[robertsondavies]

Rdavies, I have checked into this thread on occasion and I get the impression from those posts of yours which I've read that you believe that folks who don't want golf carts on 30a also don't support green initiatives, like big SUVs, are Republicans, are anti new urbanism, are for ridonkulous solutions like over and under passes and are intolerant of opinions different from their own...

Are my assumptions about your assumptions correct?

Thanks for reading. If you're bored or tired of this thread my apologies. I'd like to hear your viewpoint on LSV's GEO. I won't get all emotional one way or the other either.

Before I answer your question, let me first say AGAIN I don't support golf carts on 30A either. please read above. As to your question, I hate to make conclusions/assumptions but since you bring it up... it would actually be that those who are against LSV's now, mostly on stated safety grounds, are actually not Republicans, or Anti-Environmentalists. I suspect that many if not most totally have their heart in the right place on most environmental issues, and view themselves at least as very tolerant etc etc, and probably Democrat to boot. Of course I'm sure opposition comes from both parties here in South Walton, the same way support nationally has come in 48 states now, for PRO LSV statutes.
Anyhhow, if all these silly assumptions are true, it puts the opposition in an odd position here. A conundrum. Where their view on safety goes against New Urbanisms, the Sierra Clubs, most progressives etc... that 30A is safer, when slower. Like in Seaside where its jammed. Sure it looks unsafe, but ask an Insurance Company what the rates are on insuring an LSV in Seaside, and you'll have your answer about safety, lest you think there is some Green conspiracy to hold LSV insurance rates low. I think the people against LSV expansion in Walton County just don't like the inconvenience of having to go a bit slower for 3 of the 18 miles, then they otherwise would, and they THINK despite ample evidence of cheap insurability, that they are UNSAFE. Me, I don't think State Farm and ALL STATE have changed their underwriting standards, to lose money...

 

[NotDeadYet]

It also had a Florida license plate on the back.

It's my understanding that if it has a Florida license plate, it meets the state requirements to be considered street legal and is therefore allowed. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Matt J]

It's my understanding that if it has a Florida license plate, it meets the state requirements to be considered street legal and is therefore allowed. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Technically I can bolt my license plate to my butt, that doesn't make me street legal.