Discussion in 'Local Government and Groups' started by Jdarg, Jul 28, 2014.
That one makes the top 10 list !
I have a couple of suggestions for you, Misty. Grow up and get real. And yes, I like to read my own type as it is much more sensible than yours.
If you say so...LOL!
Misty, can you enlighten us on the internet usage policy for county employees?
If I were a county employee, I'd have an answer for you lickety split.
While Andy may have already voted, I like the idea of asking people to provide a rationale for their position. This is what elections should be about... people with differing views sharing their views AND the rationale behind those views in a respectful way. An important part of the political and governance process is then for the people to listen carefully to the arguments, combine those arguments with their own life experience, moral compass, and personal self-interests and make a judgement about how they should vote. Knowing that you always provide thoughtful, reasoned responses, I am anxious to hear how you think others should learn about the issues upon which they will be voting.
Except for Unions, because we are the work of the devil, right.
not the devil just the lazy and usually incompetent
I actually think you would be happiest if I didn't respond here at all. Who you kidding?
I appreciate your concern for my happiness. I'm quite touched actually, but alas I am disappointed that my effort to learn from your fountain of wisdom will not come to pass. I have always found your keen insights a compelling read. I understand your dilemma. You, like many of the world's great thinkers, sometimes require a sabbatical to give your mind the rest it needs to return to the debate sharper and wiser than ever. Godspeed. I speak for many who look forward to your future contributions to our political discourse.
Umm, actually I could care less about your happiness. And your acid tongue is quite like those you accuse.
Lazy and incompetent? Some people need to organize against ruthless, incompetent "managers".
The correct grammar is actually, " I couldn't care less." To say " I could care less" means that you care, but I already knew that.
Isn't this nice.
To some degree, its a hangover. They use to be able to do this on Drunken Brawlers but that site no longer exists. Hence, the enjoyable back and forth here. Go, all, go!!!!
The difference between here and there is no one put up with your BS Andy. You took your toys and went home when you got handed what you serve.
The other version, Misty. A few ruined what started out to be a good thing. I did take my toys and leave because of all the imbiclic thoughtless posts created by some who posted there. Now, many of them are here, hence the hangover statement. I still enjoyed reading the babble every day, though, just as I do here. I do note one thing that I am sure others have noticed as well and I thank Kurt for allowing it. There is a lot more give and take allowed on SoWal than there was previously, IMO. I may be wrong. I do wish Kurt would bring back the political forum as a play pen for all of us that are so vocal politically. Have a nice day, Misty, wherever you work.
Who in the HELLO gives a tinkers damn about where I work besides those of you who don't know who I am and would love nothing better than to call my employer and create drama? You can't get to me through the county because I'm not a County employee and you can't get to me through the school system because I am not employed by them either.
This is the second innuendo in regard to my work place and that (like my life) is none of your concern!!
As for the " imbiclic thoughtless posts" (your words) the common comment there was you were in large part responsible for them.
You have a great day too.
We all have an opportunity to vote on this issue and I respect those who wish to vote no for whatever reason. I don't think anybody is going to change their mind at this point but I'm convinced that we need a big change and I'm going to vote Yes. Just one less politician is a good place to start.
This Letter To The Editor Appears In Today's DeFuniak Herald/Beach Breeze
Dear Mr. Collier,
Reading our local newspaper opinion pages proves that the group so vehemently opposing a change from the status quo of electing our school district superintendent has run out of logical arguments to support their position thus have adopted a strategy of portraying to the voters that those supporting a change to the appointed superintendent model, as utilized by 99% of United States districts, are a "bunch of unpatriotic liberals that want to take away your right to vote".
An ‘unpatriotic liberal’ in the above context seems to be a person who has low standards of personal excellence and morality, views government as the solution to, rather than a cause of problems and has limited capacity to comprehend local issues much less offer solutions due to her not being born and raised within the appropriate meridians and parallels defining Walton County since 1824.
Let me put to bed this relentlessly parroted talking point regarding "losing the right to vote". In reality, we entrust elected boards and officials in government and business to appoint executives and think nothing of it. I'm sure that the 'vote NO coalition' understands that they have never actually voted for the President of the United States, rather, they have cast lots with state electors who pledge their support to a candidate as is outlined in Article II of the US Constitution. Is that radically different than electing school board members that share our values who then, in an open process with community involvement, select our school superintendent from a large pool of candidates whose qualifications trump connections? To argue that an executive chosen not by direct election is somehow unpatriotic questions the very patriotism of our Founding Fathers! This isn't disenfranchisement, this is a process that actually gives the community greater voice, and this is precisely what we need at this time of sluggish economic development in the rural parts of the county, for as long as our schools struggle, so too will our non-tourist economy.
The 'NO coalition' advocating the continuation of the election of a superintendent unendingly point out that the state has awarded the district an ‘A rating’. While this is true, I have to wonder who other than government wonks devise letter grades that award an A to a district that fails to produce students that can achieve any better than 69% in ANY of the standardized tested subjects of math, science and reading, a shameful 56% in writing and 60% of high school graduates needing remedial classes should they go to college. Back when we were in school, 56% on a test was failing, and those 60s were D's or F's. Much like the mighty Wizard of Oz was exposed as a humbug with the drawing of a curtain, the 'Walton A' looks less impressive when one takes into account 2013 changes the state board adopted to the school grading formula which enabled schools to 'drop' the FCAT scores of underperforming students from inclusion in their assigned neighborhood school's assessment, as was done previously. Commenting on the changes at the time, board member Kathleen Shanahan was quoted as saying "I don't think it is a statistically relevant model," while fellow board member Sally Bradshaw opined “I don’t understand when it became acceptable to disguise and manipulate the truth just because the truth has become uncomfortable,” and went on to state that the changes would only protect the self -esteem of adults leading school districts while ignoring students receiving a substandard education.(source: John O'Connor's StateImpactFlorida report July 16, 2013). Tellingly, less than one month after introducing the changes that enabled schools and districts to look better on paper, then Florida Education Commissioner Tony Bennett resigned from his post after being implicated in a school quality grading scandal that he appeared to have a leading role in at his previous job serving as superintendent of Indiana schools.
Why is it, then, that the 'conservatives' waging their misinformation campaign to protect the status quo here in Walton County have chosen to uphold this man behind the curtain system as proof that no problems exist in this district? Given that conservatives value excellence and competition over social academic promotion and style over substance policy, it makes me wonder, how conservative are these people?
Not surprisingly, there are advocates of the status quo with the audacity to send their kids to Okaloosa schools to be educated while average Walton parents of lesser means are left no choice but to have their kids matriculate through the Walton system. A classic case of “do as I say, not as I do” liberals are so fond of. Again, what is the motivation for preserving that which they obviously recognize as flawed?
Could it be that local government is in no small part their business? Just as liberals like to grow the government and see it as part of their livelihood, so too it seems that some of the folks pushing the status quo can’t afford to lose one more political office to sink their claws into, one more office to seek and dispense favor from. What kind of conservative goes around proclaiming that we need MORE politicians and elected offices?
What about the divisiveness the protectors of the politician have subjected this county to? Without a doubt, their campaign strategy is to make this a county native versus outsider, conservative versus liberal and north county versus south county issue. In the last two weeks I have seen personal attacks waged on well intentioned people who think there might be a better way to do things here. Seemingly, the litmus tests one must pass without being trashed by the 'NO coalition' are to be born in Walton County and to be a card carrying Republican. That is why I am so confused as to why those qualities, if not present, cast doubt and suspicion on the 'YES' advocates while the 'NO' party has no problem having their south county efforts spearheaded by Texas and New York transplants and the immediate past Chairman of the Walton County Democrat Executive Committee. I have no problem with anyone exercising their right of political expression regardless of their party or provenance, but I again have to question this coalition's 'do as I say, not as I do' hypocrisy.
So what is motivating the group that protecting the status quo of electing our school superintendent? Is it outstanding academic achievement? Clearly, not. Achieving smaller government less open to corruption and focused on hiring the best candidates? History tells us that can’t be it. To save us from some carpetbag liberal coming here to serve as our superintendent who will ruin Walton County’s conservative values? Despite the beware the boogey man type warnings the 'NO coalition' pronounces, states like Georgia, Texas and Louisiana as well as counties in Alabama and Mississippi where the district superintendents are school board appointed have been spared this indignity.
I advocate that everyone recognize the desperate smearing and scare tactics for exactly what they are, namely, efforts to tap voter fears instead of articulating a positive vision for our county. Ronald Reagan said it better than I ever could when he joked that "It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first". Our time to position our county as the leader in the panhandle has come, and we can only accomplish this if we take advantage of a very rare opportunity to divest ourselves of the millstone that is the political gamesmanship that has dominated this county for so many years. Please vote YES on the August 26 referendum to send a clear message that we are sick and tired of the taxpayers, schools and kids being collateral damage in the political battles that benefit Walton County's select few.
Patrick A. Ferry, MD
Santa Rosa Beach
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