Meth Labs

[scooterbug44]

LS-I think that is a valid point - but the same one can make about ANY drug/addiction/coping mechanism.

Meth is just plain nasty and it is spreading WAY too quickly for my taste.

 

[LuciferSam]

frisking 85 year old grannies for bombs

We're all to quick to reward people for their effort rather than results.

 

[LuciferSam]

LS-I think that is a valid point - but the same one can make about ANY drug/addiction/coping mechanism.

Meth is just plain nasty and it is spreading WAY too quickly for my taste.

Regardless of my thoughts, I've never been a fan of knee-jerk measures to solve any problem. All too often they're a political ploy that benefits nobody but the knee jerkers and perhaps the sheeple who jump on the knee-jerk bandwagon. In the meantime nothing in the way of real solutions has been achieved. This is often to the benefit of the knee-jerks because if the problem is ever solved, they are out of a job.

 

[Alicia Leonard]

I have to show ID everytime I buy Sudafed- so I have been contributing to a database all along that Walton County was not accessing?

Bring it on- anything to make it harder for that loser trash to make meth. What down side could there be?

(I don't want to hear about losing a personal freedom or big brother, blah blah blah either- if you are buying Sudafed for a legit reason, why would you care that somebody knew you had sinus congestion?)

The larger pharmacys are already taking part in this. It was proposed at the City Council the night before the BCC. It's the mom and pop stores and small business that are keeping paper logs that have to be physically looked at to see who is buying the most. This is the company that is doing it. MethCheck Rx - Appriss, Inc.

I understand that the grant, if received, will pay for the scanners and service, but I am not sure what happens if those grants run out or how the service is continued(paid for) if that happens. I keep hearing free, but I am looking into these and some other questions about it.

I have to, on bad months, take Zyrtec D twice a day, since each dose last 12 hours. That's 60 tablets per month, and I don't have any issue with handing over my drivers lis. Like many, I thought it already was in a data base. I'd be just fine with these becoming prescription medications again, but that would probably put people like Appriss out of meth data business.

 

[Alicia Leonard]

To me, it sounds silly. The huge quantity of ephedrine, or whatever the required ingredient is, that is needed is so huge that the people cooking it don't go around buying up drug stores. They are getting it from someplace else...stealing it maybe?

My understanding is they send people out, with gift cards and such and they buy the legal limit and combined it is enough. When the WCSO presented this idea at the meeting I was attending, I understood it to be needed because it was too time consuming to send officers out to look at the small business logs in person.

 

[scooterbug44]

Why can't the individual pharmacies just fax or mail in the logs?

The last time I bought some Sudafed it was at Target and even though they are a national pharmacy they were using paper too.

 

[Alicia Leonard]

Why can't the individual pharmacies just fax or mail in the logs?

The last time I bought some Sudafed it was at Target and even though they are a national pharmacy they were using paper too.

If I go to Winn Dixie, it goes into a paper log. If I go to Wal-Greens it gets scanned. You still have to have an officer to look through the faxed logs, if they could do that. I believe this system flags a person and then the WCSO will go from there.

 

[Matt J]

First and foremost, BR do not flush your drugs. They wind up in the ecosystem and cause very bad things. Like junkie fish. Seriously though, ask your doctor about proper disposal, I'm betting the Pharmacy would have a solution.

The computer system is already in use in Bay County and has had some positive effects. For one they are able to watch purchases real time. What this means is that when a cooker (someone who manufactures meth) is getting ready they'll send out runners all over the county to purchase sudafed. This system allows law enforcement not only to track folks who buy all over the county and stop them, but it also allows them to see that there is a spike in purchases. Then patrol officers can be more vigilant of mobile meth labs or even home based labs.

I'm all for this and don't think it's too big brother or intrusive. If you'll notice the ACLU hasn't taken up the cause.

 

[scooterbug44]

Question - why can't they just get/make the ingredient they are taking from the Sudafed somewhere else?

Those are tiny little pills.

P.S. Sorry if this is a dumb question, have never actually made meth.

 

[lms47]

I think this is a great idea. The way I understand an additional problem in Walton Co. is that people from Bay Co. are coming to our county because there is NO consistant way to track the purchases. If you are employing a tracking system, IMHO, it would be advantageous for ALL to use the same system; not a hundred different ways of tracking. Not efficient.