More Illegal Activity -- Filling in Wetlands

[Miss Kitty]

Does "loadest" stand for a load of something?

....I venture to guess she meant "loudest".

 

[Bob]

This is too good. I am both PC and a tree hugger. Somebody go tell Bob:funn:

Well, it's easier to hug a tree than an oil rig. If I can vote for GW, you can tango with a cypress tree. Florida Girl, this thread convinces me you've got more issues than Time magazine. Get some beach time, and relax....

 

[Smiling JOe]

... Florida Girl, this thread convinces me you've got more issues than Time magazine. Get some beach time, and relax....

 

[mf]

floridagirl...i was wondering who on earth would support the flagrant misuse of eminent domain..i guess i know now..

i seriously DO NOT think we need anymore efforts to protect developers, i think they do fine on their own. i'll still to protecting defenseless wildlife and the environment, even if that does make me a tree hugger. consider these trees hugged.:clap_1:

 

[bfraine]

I am the owner of this land, I have permits for EVERYTHING being completed on these properties. I have had these permits since I purchased the land. I have had them renewed in the past year. The land has been mitigated, which means I purchased 5 times the area I am filling to gain the permits and protect the area.

The only reason for a stop work order was a mis-communictaion which has been cleared up.

Nice to know we have people like Joe on the job here with zero facts, zero knowledge and zero self control to take the time to review the permits and ask questions. Keep smilng Joe, I am turning this Libel situation over to a legal matter and have contacted SOWal for your information.

 

[Smiling JOe]

I'm sure that miscommunication happens in Gov't. I didn't issue the Stop Work Order for non compliance, the County did. Maybe you complied with the law, but filling in that wetlands was a material fact which has stopped people from purchasing the house on the street behind your property. I hope you disclose to any future purchasers that the property is filled wetlands. ;-)

I would also like to state that while you say I had zero facts, you can see the photos in my first post. The facts are that the Stop Work Order was posted, the wetlands were filled (and according to the Stop Work Permit, were done so without permits, ie- illegally), and that you are listed as an owner according to public record. These are observations which I have documented evidence in the way of photos. If that isn't fact, I don't know what is. It isn't my job to find out if permits were issued. That job belongs to the Code Enforcement, and they are the ones who issued the Stop Work Order. Most professionals know what they are doing, and we rely on these people in Code Enforecent every day. As I stated, I'm sure mistakes are made, and you have stated your case and the Stop Work Order sign has since been removed from the property.

For you to state that I have "zero facts, zero knowledge and zero self control," is incorrect. I know have stated the facts again, above, and my knowledge of this property is that fill dirt has covered standing water. Regarding self control, show me anyone who doesn't struggle with self control. I may not have 100% self control, but I certainly have more than "zero." In fact, my self is the only thing which I can control. You state, "zero self control to take the time to review the permits and ask questions." Here is a question for you -- The Stop Work Order states that the Permits do not exist. How does one review something that is stated to not exist?

 

[Kurt]

Smiling JOe - there is a reason news reporters use words like "appears to be", "alleged", and so forth. You made the assumption the fill was improper because of the stop work order, but there is always room for error on the part of government and individuals. Please remember "innocent until proven guilty", and please be more careful about what you post.

I don't know what all the facts are but a lot can be learned from this thread. I think Smiling JOe and bfraine had good posts stating their case.

FYI to all - owners/operators of message boards are not libel for what is posted on the board, but rather the person(s) who post the libelous statement(s). But in this case there doesn't appear to be a case for libel since nothing untrue or malicious was posted.

 

[30A Skunkape]

Smiling JOe - there is a reason news reporters use words like "appears to be", "alleged", and so forth. You made the assumption the fill was improper because of the stop work order, but there is always room for error on the part of government and individuals. Please remember "innocent until proven guilty", and please be more careful about what you post.

I don't know what all the facts are but a lot can be learned from this thread. I think Smiling JOe and bfraine had good posts stating their case.

FYI to all - owners/operators of message boards are not libel for what is posted on the board, but rather the person(s) who post the libelous statement(s). But in this case there doesn't appear to be a case for libel since nothing untrue or malicious was posted.

Except the libel against the poor mosquitoes

 

[Bob]

Lawyers rule the world

 

[greenroomsurfer]

O.K. boys and girls, let me set the record straight. I live down the street from the wetlands that where filled in. The contractor , the property owner (an attorney who specialty is land development) and the people filiing in the high priority saltwater marsh did this on a holiday, knowing fully well what they were doing. Code enforcement and FDEP were closed and the cops said they could do nothing. The sad thing is, the county will not pull anyone's license, fine anyone, or repair what they have damaged. Life goes on till enough of us ***** and bug our county officials. The squeaky wheel gets the grease so to speak. Last and not least on the mosquito issue, the only time down here in our little swamp the little critters come out is after the spray truck comes down the strret. Anyone disagrees, you know where to find me. MAHALO AND HAPPY EASTER.