Mrsa

[scooterbug44]

No, no, no. I am trying to do the opposite. I heard the radio news this morning and the topic of MRSA was being reported on in a fashion meant to whip-up hysteria. I was trying to point out that MRSA is everywhere and 99% of us don't have any problems with it. The news was making it sound like this was something like Ebola virus being released in Virginia.
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You mean like the headline on WEAR's website claiming it is a worse epidemic than AIDS? :roll:

 

[Ocean Lover]

No, no, no. I am trying to do the opposite. I heard the radio news this morning and the topic of MRSA was being reported on in a fashion meant to whip-up hysteria. I was trying to point out that MRSA is everywhere and 99% of us don't have any problems with it. The news was making it sound like this was something like Ebola virus being released in Virginia.

BR-Why not giving the kid an 'A' and tell him to never show up again?;-)

CP-I am not too sure about the antibacterial ingredient in your wipes. There are different ingredients used in those products with varying potencies and mechanisms of action. But I can tell you that Purell, or any alcohol containing gel is a great product. Alcohol quickly KILLS just about anything you might encounter (in contrast to an 'antimicrobial' ingredient)...bacteria, microbes, fungi and many viruses succumb to alcohol...it destroys the organism's cell membrane. Obviously, you shouldn't use it on a kids face or anything, but for hands you can't beat it.

That's what I got out of it. I was just surprised at the quick responses of sowallers that have experienced it. I know my neighbor's 8th grade boy had it from picking mosquito bites. Do you think it's becoming more common?

Also, let's say a person is on Augmentin a few times a year for sinus infections. Does it still make them non-resistant to say...Cefzill or other types of anti-biotics?

 

[seaside2]

Because of the kids here, we use a 90+% gel in patient care areas.

Kills the bads stuff NOW!!!



Kind of hard on the hands though.

 

[Ocean Lover]

Because of the kids here, we use a 90+% gel in patient care areas.

Kills the bads stuff NOW!!!



Kind of hard on the hands though.

Where are you?

 

[30A Skunkape]

That's what I got out of it. I was just surprised at the quick responses of sowallers that have experienced it. I know my neighbor's 8th grade boy had it from picking mosquito bites. Do you think it's becoming more common?

Also, let's say a person is on Augmentin a few times a year for sinus infections. Does it still make them non-resistant to say...Cefzill or other types of anti-biotics?

I don't know if it is becoming 'more common', but that story is typical. The bacteria is on our skin, and a kid scratching a bite raw opens the skin and the bacteria slips right in! Neosporin is a good thing!

I read a study not too long ago where asymptomatic volunteers had a swabbed sample taken from their throat. These samples were then grown in culture. After they had provided their sample, they were given a short course of antibiotics (can't remember which one), perhaps 5 days worth. After the antibiotic regimen was complete, cultures were again obtained and compared to the originals. There was a surprising bump in the number of antibiotic resistant bugs after this! So even a seemingly benign treatment can create problems, potentially.

Antibiotic resistance depends on the mechanism the drug uses to kill bacteria. OK, not to get too eggheadish, but cephalosporins like cefzil and beta lactams (good old penicillins) both work in a similar manner in attacking the bacteria's cell membrane. Augmentin is amoxicillin (a beta lactam) combined with clavulanic acid. Many of the bugs that have gained resistance to b-lactams have done so by 'learning' how to produce an enzyme that breaks down the b-lactam before it can work (beta lactamase). The clavulanic acid in augmentin simply counteracts b-lactamase so the b-lactam can do it's job. So I think using augmentin will not have an effect on creating resistance to some cephalosporins, but not vice-versa. We might ask Audie or Cork, they are the pharmacists and I am digging deep to remember this stuff!

 

[seaside2]

Where are you?

I sent you a PM.

 

[Ocean Lover]

I don't know if it is becoming 'more common', but that story is typical. The bacteria is on our skin, and a kid scratching a bite raw opens the skin and the bacteria slips right in! Neosporin is a good thing!

I read a study not too long ago where asymptomatic volunteers had a swabbed sample taken from their throat. These samples were then grown in culture. After they had provided their sample, they were given a short course of antibiotics (can't remember which one), perhaps 5 days worth. After the antibiotic regimen was complete, cultures were again obtained and compared to the originals. There was a surprising bump in the number of antibiotic resistant bugs after this! So even a seemingly benign treatment can create problems, potentially.

Antibiotic resistance depends on the mechanism the drug uses to kill bacteria. OK, not to get too eggheadish, but cephalosporins like cefzil and beta lactams (good old penicillins) both work in a similar manner in attacking the bacteria's cell membrane. Augmentin is amoxicillin (a beta lactam) combined with clavulanic acid. Many of the bugs that have gained resistance to b-lactams have done so by 'learning' how to produce an enzyme that breaks down the b-lactam before it can work (beta lactamase). The clavulanic acid in augmentin simply counteracts b-lactamase so the b-lactam can do it's job. So I think using augmentin will not have an effect on creating resistance to some cephalosporins, but not vice-versa. We might ask Audie or Cork, they are the pharmacists and I am digging deep to remember this stuff!

I find this extremely interesting so thanks for your eggheadish response. A few years ago I was on so many antibiotics after sinus issues that led to pnemonia. Augmentin,Cefzil, Avalox, a couple of others and then AugmentinXR is what finally did it.
Unfortunately Sam has been on too many also with her allergy/asthma background. When she was younger she had ear infections and then she still gets sinus infections every now and then.( any cold turns into an infection with her) We really need to bite the bullet again and start her allergy shots back up. We just haven't had good experiences with it in the past.

I din't know Cork was a pharmacist!!!? Wow, she does it all doesn't she?

 

[Bob]

My mother-in-law checked into a hospital with a femur fracture, and checked out of this earth with a staph infection 30 days later still lying in bed at the hospital. Makes you wonder.

 

[30A Skunkape]

My mother-in-law checked into a hospital with a femur fracture, and checked out of this earth with a staph infection 30 days later still lying in bed at the hospital. Makes you wonder.

MRSA infections acquired in hospitals are a huge problem. An issue you can watch for in the near future is that the feds plan to stop paying for extended hospital stays and procedures related to conditions which look to be the hospital's fault, ie, line infections, bed sores, fall trauma, etc. It is envisioned as a way to cut back on medicare spending.

 

[Jdarg]

I find this extremely interesting so thanks for your eggheadish response. A few years ago I was on so many antibiotics after sinus issues that led to pnemonia. Augmentin,Cefzil, Avalox, a couple of others and then AugmentinXR is what finally did it.
Unfortunately Sam has been on too many also with her allergy/asthma background. When she was younger she had ear infections and then she still gets sinus infections every now and then.( any cold turns into an infection with her) We really need to bite the bullet again and start her allergy shots back up. We just haven't had good experiences with it in the past.

I din't know Cork was a pharmacist!!!? Wow, she does it all doesn't she?

Kate would be sick every day if she wasn't on the allergy shots. They have made all the difference. Maybe switch allergists and start over?