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weatherman

Beach Comber
Jan 31, 2007
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Birmingham
Does anyone now someone who works for the National Flood insurance program? I have a question and would pay top $ for some advice. The help desk at NFIP can't help me.
 

weatherman

Beach Comber
Jan 31, 2007
21
0
Birmingham
more specifically, will pay $10,000 for the information I need. Nothing confidential, nothing illegal. Just need some public information but you need to work for the nfip to get the data I need
 

ClintClint

Beach Fanatic
Jul 2, 2008
599
78
It was advice, now it's information. File a freedom of information request.
Otherwise ask your question here publicly and get your answer for free.
Agent 007 isn't on the board, we'll get you your answer and you can donate the money to a Sowal charity. That is of course if your motives are good. LOL
 

NOLA TRANSPLANT

Beach Lover
Jul 24, 2007
145
21
Ask SWGB he knows everything!! Or knows how to find out........
 

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert
May 8, 2007
16,706
3,339
Sowal
It would help if you were more specific as to what you need - if you just need a flood zone map for reference or an official statement of what flood zone something is in, we can tell you how to do that. :wave:
 

weatherman

Beach Comber
Jan 31, 2007
21
0
Birmingham
Ok I will state the queston publicly and my intent. The intent is for research project for a university. The project is this:

To properly assess the risk the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP), and therefore the public, is bearing.

Take a look at this:

http://bsa.nfipstat.com/reports/1011.htm

The NFIP has 5,595,554 flood policies in force in the Nation. 2,189,337 or roughly 40% of the nation’s policies are in Florida alone.

I need specific policy information from the NFIP. This information is neither published nor disclosed for NO obvious reason. I will file a freedom of information request and will see where that leads. I do not want any private information at all, I do not want any names of individuals, I am only are looking at condo associations, and the premiums collected from these specific associations to properly assess the risk underwritten.

It is well known that no insurance company will underwrite flood policies in low lying areas. If you want flood insurance, you have to buy it under the NFIP program, which is underwritten by the government. Private and public insurance companies have evaluated the risk and have concluded that these is too much risk to assume for the amount of premium the NFIP charges to effectively compete for these policies.

So here the moral hazard: There are several condo's that would never have been built were it not for FEMA and the NFIP. These condos would never have qualified for flood insurance.

There will be another condo building boom in Florida, it may be 100 years from now, but it will come. It is our goal to show that the free market should be allowed to float in order to compete to offer premiums that match the risk of these flood policies. This will prevent future Condo's from being built in low lying area's and getting the public to bear the risk of flood.

So here is what I need. I need the name of the condo association, the date the policy was written and the premium charged. We have a very large team that is going to do site visits on a very large sample of condo's policies to assess the risk based on year built and flood plain analysis, so the risk can properly be assessed. The risk and probabilities will be analyzed under 100 year flood scenarios and then we will compare that to the premiums collected.

We Believe that the risk the public is bearing for these policies is grossly understated and that the NFIP, under a 100 year flood scenario is not a viable entity.
 

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert
May 8, 2007
16,706
3,339
Sowal
I would be interested in knowing how many of those condos covered could not be built today.

I assume that many are older buildings and that it is not possible to build the same structure in the same location because of more recent codes etc.

My guess is not that they were not able to build in those locations because of the NFIP & FEMA, but that due to changes in codes and liability assessments, those are now the only ways they can get insurance.
 

ClintClint

Beach Fanatic
Jul 2, 2008
599
78
so the NFIP should raise it's premiums to properly reflect the risk? Is that what your premise is, or did the insurance companies fund this research and come up with this idea to eliminate the competition from the NFIP?
I think Sowal should get a bigger cut of any class action suit than $10,000. Good luck with getting help to get the premiums raised on everyone.
Me smells a "very large team" of sheepskin with Juris Doctor written all over it prowling around and they ain't pickin' up trash.
 

weatherman

Beach Comber
Jan 31, 2007
21
0
Birmingham
This is not sponsored by any public grant or private enterprise. The sole purpose is to prevent future development in low lying areas, and stop getting the public to bear the risk for policies written in these areas.

The NFIP exists and certain condo's were built soley becuase NFIP insurance was available. Its there, nothing can be done about it. Were not going to recommend that they be torn down. The public via NFIP has agreed to subsudize their insurance and will continue to do so indefinately.

The recommendation will apply to new construction only. I know of 700M condo projects that are built in VE zones. This means that there is a 100% chance of a a major catastrophy:

http://www.floodinsights.com/floodlookups/floodzon.htm

This is going after developers only, not single family residences. Single family residences are the ones subsidizing the developers land so that they could build the Condo in the first place.

Not looking to raise anyone's insurance, looking to Curb future development in high hazard areas.
 
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