No more self serve gas stations

[Mango]

It is simple to check your own oil, coolant, tranny and wiper fluids, and tire air pressure. Most car maintenance manuals even tell you how often you should. If necessary, it could be included in the test to get a driving license.

Simple for you and I, and maybe simple when people are younger. But would you advocate that an elderly person or a handicapped person who can't squeeze the gas trigger or can no longer see the dip stick for coolants and oil, who can't bend down to remove the tire caps and fill their own gas, would you advocate they can't get a license to drive because of this? In that case, anyone with rheumatoid arthritis wouldn't be able to drive.

I've made it clear already that I do not believe in mandating a no pump law.

 

[Matt J]

Have you ever bought gas in NJ? I have, and fully disagree that full-service gas doesn't cost more. The cost of the employee wages will be absorbed in things you buy at that station.

It seems rather silly to pay someone to do something that you can just as easily do, without having to wait on anyone, especially considering that you are not able to do anything more important with your time, while trapped at the gas station. As for safety, I haven't seen or heard of one accident relating to people filling their autos with gas at gas stations.

This was already discussed earlier, if people don't get out of the car they are less likely to purchase anything.

Simple for you and I, and maybe simple when people are younger. But would you advocate that an elderly person or a handicapped person who can't squeeze the gas trigger or can no longer see the dip stick for coolants and oil, who can't bend down to remove the tire caps and fill their own gas, would you advocate they can't get a license to drive because of this? In that case, anyone with rheumatoid arthritis wouldn't be able to drive.

I've made it clear already that I do not believe in mandating a no pump law.

If you can't see the dip sticks then no you shouldn't be driving. That falls under the vision test and I love that right now I have to do it every 8 years, but once I'm over 50 I can just send in my fee and they'll send me my new license regardless of my ability to see 5 feet in front of me. :roll:

 

[Mango]

If you can't see the dip sticks then no you shouldn't be driving. That falls under the vision test and I love that right now I have to do it every 8 years, but once I'm over 50 I can just send in my fee and they'll send me my new license regardless of my ability to see 5 feet in front of me. :roll:

Y'all are a tough group.

 

[AAbsolute]

Have you ever bought gas in NJ? I have, and fully disagree that full-service gas doesn't cost more. The cost of the employee wages will be absorbed in things you buy at that station.

It seems rather silly to pay someone to do something that you can just as easily do, without having to wait on anyone, especially considering that you are not able to do anything more important with your time, while trapped at the gas station. As for safety, I haven't seen or heard of one accident relating to people filling their autos with gas at gas stations.

I'm searching for employment answers that don't hurt the local and broader economies. This program puts unemployed to work.

Make a more logical proposal that would put more people to work with less cost to our taxpayers so I can put this idea to rest.

 

[Matt J]

Y'all are a tough group.

Just not too keen on the lax driving requirements for the elderly since hubby got the entire side of his car destroyed by a 92 year-old woman who started to pull out because, "I didn't see him". It was in broad day light on a straight street.

 

[Mango]

Just not too keen on the lax driving requirements for the elderly since hubby got the entire side of his car destroyed by a 92 year-old woman who started to pull out because, "I didn't see him". It was in broad day light on a straight street.

Didn't they change the laws recently that elderly over 80 have to get vision tests for reissue of licenses?

 

[Matt J]

Didn't they change the laws recently that elderly over 80 have to get vision tests for reissue of licenses?

Not that I'm aware of. I especially doubt that down here in God's waiting room.

 

[Winnie]

Simple for you and I, and maybe simple when people are younger. But would you advocate that an elderly person or a handicapped person who can't squeeze the gas trigger or can no longer see the dip stick for coolants and oil, who can't bend down to remove the tire caps and fill their own gas, would you advocate they can't get a license to drive because of this? In that case, anyone with rheumatoid arthritis wouldn't be able to drive.

I've made it clear already that I do not believe in mandating a no pump law.

It could be included in the written portion of the test instead of the practical.

 

[30ashopper]

I'm searching for employment answers that don't hurt the local and broader economies. This program puts unemployed to work.

Make a more logical proposal that would put more people to work with less cost to our taxpayers so I can put this idea to rest.

Legislating a recovery has been shown to be inefficient and usually has some unexpected negative impact. What you want to do is create growth, which creates jobs. To build growth, cut corporate tax rates and implement a major personal income tax rate cut so consumers can get out of debt. If you have to cover losses through cuts in government spending, try to limit cuts to programs that will have the least impact on government employment.

Most importantly don't look to miracle cures, downturns in cycles are necessary for long term economic stability. Propping up one bubble just leads to another. Markets function best when government isn't playing whack-a-mole with the economy.

 

[AAbsolute]

Legislating a recovery has been shown to be inefficient and usually has some unexpected negative impact. What you want to do is create growth, which creates jobs. To build growth, cut corporate tax rates and implement a major personal income tax rate cut so consumers can get out of debt. If you have to cover losses through cuts in government spending, try to limit cuts to programs that will have the least impact on government employment.

Most importantly don't look to miracle cures, downturns in cycles are necessary for long term economic stability. Propping up one bubble just leads to another. Markets function best when government isn't playing whack-a-mole with the economy.

At this point the US has spent over a Trillion Dollars and repaired nothing. I am now certain that unless the US defaults on its national debt obligation and moves to a zero account balance there will never be legitimate fundamentals again. We never, ever should have increased our debt to try and fix this.

And our SEC is now all over this 50 Billion Dollar Ponzi scheme? Who the hell are they trying to kid? These bailouts du jour are a far larger and egregious Ponzi.