same hereWhen I heard that Obama won this morning at about 0545 I thought "for what?". My next thought was "the SOWAL thread is going to be epic!".![]()
same hereWhen I heard that Obama won this morning at about 0545 I thought "for what?". My next thought was "the SOWAL thread is going to be epic!".![]()
great post! I totally agree.It has nothing to do with it, but why did he win? Was it his stump speech that he gave for the year and a half leading up to the award? He was great at saying he would bring the country together, but in reality, he has divided the country.
According to www.nobelprize.org: "On 27 November 1895, Alfred Nobel signed his last will and testament, giving the largest share of his fortune to a series of prizes, the Nobel Prizes. As described in Nobel's will, one part was dedicated to "the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses".
I was a terrible student of English grammar. Maybe someone else can explain the the verb tense "shall have done." Is that past tense? Barack thinks it has something to do with the future, according to his acceptance speech.
Peace -- that is a tough one because you don't get peace without struggle. Perhaps Obama won the peace prize for his actions of increasing troop levels in our war with Afghanistan. HELLO, we are still at war! How can the top brass in our war win a peace prize? That confuses the hell out of me, especially since part of the specific language in Alfred Nobel's last will and testament calls for the abolition or reduction of standing armies.
This is the 2009 prize, so how do they select their candidates in Feb? That doesn't give any person much time to do anything. Shouldn't it be the 2008 prize if they are going to pick their peeps in Feb?
There are some valid winners of the prize such as Martin Luther King, Jr, Mother Teresa, the 14th Dalai Lama (Tenzin Gyatso). Then, there are a few questionable winners, too like Yasser Arafat who spent most of his life fighting against Israel an was once labeled the world's number one terrorist for his attacks on civilians, and Al Gore, who never really did much except invest heavily in carbon buy out programs and make a good movie to scare everyone into buying carbon credits from his companies (though it did also bring some self awareness to us). Stalin and Hitler were nominated for the prize and then you have one of the greatest leaders of peace and freedom, Ghandi (who inspired Martin Luther King), who never won. So, real winners of peace easily shine through for all to see, and the prize no longer has anything to do with the wishes of the man who created the prize. Is all of this really worthy of a news story? Maybe a very short one. Congratulations Obama, I guess.
Was Oslo Loony to Award Obama? Maybe Not -- Politics Daily
as one of my dearest mentors told me, perhaps the esteemed Norwegian Nobel Committee in Oslo was awarding a leadership trait that stands apart from epithets, threats and generally self-centered, Wild-Wild-West diplomacy. While many of us strain to hear the chords of peace, perhaps Oslo has picked up on its faint sounds. Peace, as my mentor reminded me, starts with the person who attempts to diffuse the tension and backs away from the inflammatory rhetoric. Peace-making amid rage is a peculiar strength and does not mean the process of peace is done. But because we often link might with war, our perceptions of strength and peace are skewed. Verbal muscle is determined by skirmishes of raw words. Peace, like the 100-pound weakling we love to taunt, is shoved into the corner with fists.
Although not its first controversial selection, as Newsweek.com points out, the Nobel Committee risked its prestige to acknowledge the leadership of a sitting president shifting the tone of a global dialog, even when his administration has hardly begun. The award may embarrass Obama, who accepted it humbly, but my guess is that the Nobel Committee understands that prophets of any generation can be without honor among their own, especially when their voices are first emerging.
Musing even further, I wonder if by awarding Obama, was the Nobel Committee inviting the world to celebrate a leadership style that tries to resist the rant factor? Dr. Ellen Weber, president of the MITA International Brain Based Center, tapped into this on Twitter when she shared her blog post, "Obama Leads Peace with Brain in Mind." She cited Obama's leadership approach as "valuing differences," "emulating teachability," "taking risks," and "caring for people more than cold programs or rigid policies." And President Shimon Peres of Israel said in a letter to Obama on Friday: "Very few leaders if at all were able to change the mood of the entire world in such a short while with such a profound impact. You provided the entire humanity with fresh hope, with intellectual determination, and a feeling that there is a lord in heaven and believers on earth."
Apparently, Obama's eligibility for the prize did not hinge on launching a movement to ensure workers' rights to organize, as did Lech Walsea; or challenging the racial barriers of the South, as did Martin Luther King, Jr.; or ministering to the poor in Calcutta, as did Mother Teresa. Maybe Obama was given the prize simply because so far he has sought the words of peace, not because he has single-handedly implemented a full manifestation of its presence.
How we do achieve peace on earth is up to all of us.
There are some valid winners of the prize such as Martin Luther King, Jr, Mother Teresa, the 14th Dalai Lama (Tenzin Gyatso). Then, there are a few questionable winners, too like Yasser Arafat who spent most of his life fighting against Israel an was once labeled the world's number one terrorist for his attacks on civilians, and Al Gore, who never really did much except invest heavily in carbon buy out programs and make a good movie to scare everyone into buying carbon credits from his companies (though it did also bring some self awareness to us). Stalin and Hitler were nominated for the prize and then you have one of the greatest leaders of peace and freedom, Ghandi (who inspired Martin Luther King), who never won. So, real winners of peace easily shine through for all to see, and the prize no longer has anything to do with the wishes of the man who created the prize. Is all of this really worthy of a news story? Maybe a very short one. Congratulations Obama, I guess.
It has nothing to do with it, but why did he win? Was it his stump speech that he gave for the year and a half leading up to the award? He was great at saying he would bring the country together, but in reality, he has divided the country.
According to www.nobelprize.org: "On 27 November 1895, Alfred Nobel signed his last will and testament, giving the largest share of his fortune to a series of prizes, the Nobel Prizes. As described in Nobel's will, one part was dedicated to "the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses".
I was a terrible student of English grammar. Maybe someone else can explain the the verb tense "shall have done." Is that past tense? Barack thinks it has something to do with the future, according to his acceptance speech.
Peace -- that is a tough one because you don't get peace without struggle. Perhaps Obama won the peace prize for his actions of increasing troop levels in our war with Afghanistan. HELLO, we are still at war! How can the top brass in our war win a peace prize? That confuses the hell out of me, especially since part of the specific language in Alfred Nobel's last will and testament calls for the abolition or reduction of standing armies.
This is the 2009 prize, so how do they select their candidates in Feb? That doesn't give any person much time to do anything. Shouldn't it be the 2008 prize if they are going to pick their peeps in Feb?
There are some valid winners of the prize such as Martin Luther King, Jr, Mother Teresa, the 14th Dalai Lama (Tenzin Gyatso). Then, there are a few questionable winners, too like Yasser Arafat who spent most of his life fighting against Israel an was once labeled the world's number one terrorist for his attacks on civilians, and Al Gore, who never really did much except invest heavily in carbon buy out programs and make a good movie to scare everyone into buying carbon credits from his companies (though it did also bring some self awareness to us). Stalin and Hitler were nominated for the prize and then you have one of the greatest leaders of peace and freedom, Ghandi (who inspired Martin Luther King), who never won. So, real winners of peace easily shine through for all to see, and the prize no longer has anything to do with the wishes of the man who created the prize. Is all of this really worthy of a news story? Maybe a very short one. Congratulations Obama, I guess.
Whether you like him or not it sure has made traveling abroad feel a little safer. Someone posted that other countries were jealous of us and that is why they act the way they do. It was not jealousy... They thought we were BULLIES. No one likes a bully.