Obama's Speech in Berlin

[GoodWitch58]

Andrea Mitchell, NBC, who is traveling with Obama, reported that the Pentagon persuaded him it would be inappropriate. He said he had visited troops in Iraq and Afghanistan...

Perhaps that was okay because it was a congressional visit; the Berlin portion was strictly a campaign trip.

 

[Mango]

Getting us out of the mire means more to the soldiers than another photo op!

Excellent point.

 

[traderx]

You all want to pay lip service to vets, but you don't want to be one! Getting us out of the mire means more to the soldiers than another photo op! Being republican, and therefore probably not an ARMY or marine vet, you wouldn't understand!

And the way you know I am not a vet is..........how?

And to add to your enlightenment, I am also not a Republican.

 

[6thGen]

If you can provide a reference to where I've bashed him for visiting Iraq and Afghanistan, that'd be a start before you start saying I'd bash him for visiting wounded vets.

Beemn,
Ask all of the vets you know if they prefer Obama's plan on Bush's and McCain's plan and get back to me. While you are at it, take a look at which way vets and service members vote, since you said Republicans couldn't possibly be vets or service members. Use an exclamation point for every sentence (as above) if you like when you respond. Thanks in advance.

 

[elgordoboy]

And the way you know I am not a vet is..........how?

And to add to your enlightenment, I am also not a Republican.

So are you a vet?

 

[hnooe]

What's so wrong with being a citizen of this world?

To be a Citizen of this World, well, it's , its...just uh, um, totally anti -American is all. Like Rush Limbaugh said just today ..it might even be treason, uh, like that Fonda girl, you know

The next thing at'll happen is you will be hypnotized into believing in global warming climate change, or worse, you'll want one of them Dutch windmills in your back yard or something like that!

 

[elgordoboy]

To be a Citizen of this World, well, it's , its...just uh, um, totally anti -American is all. Like Rush Limbaugh said just today ..it might even be treason, uh, like that Fonda girl, you know

The next thing at'll happen is you will be hypnotized into believing in global warming climate change, or worse, you'll want one of them Dutch windmills in your back yard or something like that!

When America is no longer feared or hated its hegemony will be at an end and many "conservatives" (if I must label) realize and fear this, so America being reviled means we are still on top. Some days I disagree with them and some days I do not.

 

[traderx]

So are you a vet?

Yes, I come from a long line of veterans on my Dad's side.

 

[Linda]

Yes, I come from a long line of veterans on my Dad's side.

Thank you for your service and for your posts on this message board.

 

[rapunzel]

Come on, people, traderx is from Columbus and used to work with my dad. He's a good guy. Obama's gonna grow on him. I just know it! :funn:

Okay, maybe not. Still....

Was there anything in the speech of substance that anyone found objectionable or truly great?

I liked that he challenged NATO to provide more help in Afghanistan. I also like the renewed call to move away from nuclear weapons...I thought that was pretty brave politically (back home). I also thought the writing and the historical references were moving.

I also have to give credit to the guys on the right for not implying the Kenyan goat herder calls from the Kenyan students near the stage were Muslim chanting. At the time, I cringed thinking that would be the first thing someone bashed. I'm glad that everyone seems to be above that cheap shot. I thought it was great timing. He smiled at relaxed after that.