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Bob Wells

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Jul 25, 2008
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No one has run as a Democrat recently and won, but there are a lot of RINO who could have run as a Democrat and still may have won.
 

Here4Good

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Jul 10, 2006
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But if all Odom did was lobby for something, how is that wrong?

How is this so different from the $5 million dollars that got stuck into the budget at the last minute a few years back at the BCC to build the public parks at Hammock Bay? And then the contract was awarded to Crystal Beach Development when it was let out on bids?

He lobbied for something which was illegal, and then took part in the coverup.

And the lobbying was accompanied by heavy "campaign contributions".
 

wrobert

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Nov 21, 2007
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He lobbied for something which was illegal, and then took part in the coverup.

And the lobbying was accompanied by heavy "campaign contributions".


All lobbying is accompanied by campaign contributions. Go look at the financial reports for the incumbents in State office.

People lobby for illegal things all the time. They are lobbying to either get the law changed or to get the legislature to do it, thus making it legal in their eyes.
 

Busta Hustle

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Apr 11, 2007
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All lobbying is accompanied by campaign contributions. Go look at the financial reports for the incumbents in State office. People lobby for illegal things all the time. They are lobbying to either get the law changed or to get the legislature to do it, thus making it legal in their eyes.


I especialy love county commissioners using tax $$ to pay lobbyist to lobby the state and federal congress and senate in order to understand the paper work to fill out in order to get the state or fed to send tax $$$ back to the county. And then to see the state (Gaetz) singing high praises of the county on their understanding the paper work and getting in line early , as the $$$ exchange takes some time.
And crown thy good with brotherhood (and some cash) from sea to shining sea.
 

SGB

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Feb 11, 2005
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How is this so different from the $5 million dollars that got stuck into the budget at the last minute a few years back at the BCC to build the public parks at Hammock Bay? And then the contract was awarded to Crystal Beach Development when it was let out on bids?

In case someone reading this doesn't know - the park is in the middle of Hammock Bay which is Odom's development, and Crystal Beach Development is owned by Odom. So Odom "donated" the land in the middle of his development so the county could develop the park for him, and then the county paid Odom to build said park. Sweet deal for Odom - he gets out of paying to build recreational facilities for his development and then gets paid about $6M to build them for himself, I mean, the county. I couldn't believe it at the time, and still can't. Well, maybe I can after seeing how our county government works.
 

Matt J

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May 9, 2007
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In case someone reading this doesn't know - the park is in the middle of Hammock Bay which is Odom's development, and Crystal Beach Development is owned by Odom. So Odom "donated" the land in the middle of his development so the county could develop the park for him, and then the county paid Odom to build said park. Sweet deal for Odom - he gets out of paying to build recreational facilities for his development and then gets paid about $6M to build them for himself, I mean, the county. I couldn't believe it at the time, and still can't. Well, maybe I can after seeing how our county government works.

I'm not defending the guy in any way shape or form, but have you actually been to and driven through Hammock Bay? The park you are discussing is right down the road from Hammock Bays recreational area and actually mirrors some of the same things. There is a non-gated road from the side street so that one can access the recreational area without driving through the majority of Hammock Bay.

While I'm not thrilled with most of Odom's antics developers have come a long way. I grew up in Tallahassee's big expansion north. in some cases tracts of land much larger than Hammock Bay were developed and large parcels set aside and still owned by the developer, about the size of an elementary school, and once the residents demanded a school so their kids weren't bused all over and the existing school was bursting at the seems, the county got to purchase the land from the developer at a now increased amount. After all it was in a desirable neighborhood.
 

SGB

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Feb 11, 2005
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I'm not defending the guy in any way shape or form, but have you actually been to and driven through Hammock Bay? The park you are discussing is right down the road from Hammock Bays recreational area and actually mirrors some of the same things. There is a non-gated road from the side street so that one can access the recreational area without driving through the majority of Hammock Bay.

Yep, been there many times. Went to look at their playgrounds (both the recreation area and county park) to see what they had and figure out what we would like here in SoWal. The playground and park is a huge asset to Hammock Bay and to Walton County. I have complete park envy. I just disagree with the convoluted way it was created and paid for and how $6M of county funds ended up in Odom's pocket. The huge cost of that park just boggles my mind when we can't even get enough funds to put in a playground at Helen McCall. But times are different now.
 

Smiling JOe

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Nov 18, 2004
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There is a bit of a difference between the City Park at Hammock Bay and Jay's private Jet business in Destin -- The difference is that the people actually got something out of the Freeport Park, not so in Destin. It wasn't until after the fact, that I learned that Jay's business constructed the Park in Freeport. That is the good ole boy system, and is wrong in my opinion. Coaxing the gov't to give $6 million to use to build the Private Jet business of Jay, when the funds were to supposed to go to build public facilities for education or whatever, is not only wrong, but probably illegal, and shame on all involved if it is true.

wrobert, it still sounds like you think it is wrong for politicians to do illegal things, but you are okay with a civilian asking the gov't to do illegal things. In my opinion, the asking is in the same category as the doing -- wrong, wrong, wrong.
 
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