Hey Otter !, Hi, Manuel here, I took your advice and registered here to look for info., I haven't asked about ramps yet, didn't want to sidetrack the thread but we just wanted to say HOWDY !, we are planning a getaway to Grayton, with or without the boat, we can't wait, if we don't bring the boat we will be in this, cut's down on excess luggage for her,(Hee,Hee,Hee)