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BeachSiO2

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Outside your racist little bubble, people are actually involved in violence against the government for many reasons besides skin color.

It may not be a sign of progress, just of priorities, but the most frequent and most deadly attacks are for political reasons, not racial ones.

Religion has killed more people and caused more wars than anything else, and just in case you haven't noticed the billions we've been pouring down a rathole and the thousands of my peers who are dying or being maimed, the Islamic fundmentalists aren't so happy with us lately.

I am sorry if I offended your sensibilities with my comments but I don't live in a racist little bubble. I was just stating that it would not surprise me if his election didn't come without attack. I agree that political reasons are often reasons for those attacks, but I also know that the last non-WASP president didn't fair to well. Is that reason not to vote for him he11 know, but it is a reality that could occur.

Also, to use your analogy about who's been attacking us, is different than who has tried to assasinate presidents in the past, it's typically an angry white male. With all the crazies out there, during a time of economic crises I could see someone try something VERY terrible. I hope it doesn't happen, but it could.
 

BeachSiO2

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There are also a lot of environmental terrorists and Minutemen....crazies come in every stripe, and I don't believe we have any more reason to fear an assassin with Obama than with any other would be President. People thought Kennedy's Catholicism might provoke an assassin, but no one could have predicted Hinckley's theory that Jodi Foster would fall in love with him if he shot Reagan.

Crazies rarely operate with rhyme or reason.

I hope you are correct and like I said it will not be a factor in my vote. Sorry if I offended anyone by my posing the terrible scenario.
 

rapunzel

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Nov 30, 2005
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Don't assassins typically see themselves as avenging some personal slight? I mean, people thought Kennedy was in danger on religious grounds, but it was something more personal that motivated the assassin in the end, no matter which theory you subscribe to....

The thing that really bothers me about this whole topic is that it was a rumor used very heavily in South Carolina to try to suppress turnout. On the Sunday before the election, I saw Michelle take a question on this, and she spoke very eloquently about how they had discussed the risk, and they decided if that kept him from running, no person of color would ever run for that very reason. She talked about why Barack was so sure the this was his time to run, that the time for his type of leadership had come, and that they, as a family, believed that the importance of the task warranted the courage it would take to be the first African American. People spat on Willie Mays, until they saw how good he was at his job. She said she had faith the same would happen if Barack was elected, and she was counting on the Secret Service to be extra diligent during the transition -- to which they all laughed.

The main reason I hope you are wrong, though, is because I assured two different little old black women that I didn't believe that he was in any more danger than anyone else in that position. I do believe that. I hope and pray that I did not mislead those women.
 

scooterbug44

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I am enough of a Pollyanna that I think the Secret Service is more than a match for a racist idiot in a dirty sheet.

Maybe I've read too many Tom Clancy books, maybe I am too young to understand that kind of hate, maybe I'm just so happy to have such a wonderful candidate for president that I am ignoring other people's prejudices and mental incapacities.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, but maybe, just maybe, I will enjoy watching the racist *%#(#&O(#(%@ eat their words when we have a man who is part African put our country back on the right track.
 

Mango

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I hope you are correct and like I said it will not be a factor in my vote. Sorry if I offended anyone by my posing the terrible scenario.

No offense taken, at least not here anyway. I don't think it is a topic that hasn't crossed people's minds at some point. Actually, I fear our own govt. more than any crazy coming out of the woodwork.
 

BeachSiO2

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Jun 16, 2006
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Don't assassins typically see themselves as avenging some personal slight? I mean, people thought Kennedy was in danger on religious grounds, but it was something more personal that motivated the assassin in the end, no matter which theory you subscribe to....

The thing that really bothers me about this whole topic is that it was a rumor used very heavily in South Carolina to try to suppress turnout. On the Sunday before the election, I saw Michelle take a question on this, and she spoke very eloquently about how they had discussed the risk, and they decided if that kept him from running, no person of color would ever run for that very reason. She talked about why Barack was so sure the this was his time to run, that the time for his type of leadership had come, and that they, as a family, believed that the importance of the task warranted the courage it would take to be the first African American. People spat on Willie Mays, until they saw how good he was at his job. She said she had faith the same would happen if Barack was elected, and she was counting on the Secret Service to be extra diligent during the transition -- to which they all laughed.

The main reason I hope you are wrong, though, is because I assured two different little old black women that I didn't believe that he was in any more danger than anyone else in that position. I do believe that. I hope and pray that I did not mislead those women.

Punzy, I never said it was going to happen. I said it could happen, just like Hillary could still win the nomination. As for it suppressing the vote, I just don't get why that would happen. He could get in a car wreck tomorrow, struck by lightning, bit by a shark, but they should still vote for him. I just never thought of it as a vote suppression technique but maybe that scare tactic is part of the grand plan by the vast right wing conspiracy.
 

rapunzel

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Nov 30, 2005
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I am enough of a Pollyanna that I think the Secret Service is more than a match for a racist idiot in a dirty sheet.

Maybe I've read too many Tom Clancy books, maybe I am too young to understand that kind of hate, maybe I'm just so happy to have such a wonderful candidate for president that I am ignoring other people's prejudices and mental incapacities.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, but maybe, just maybe, I will enjoy watching the racist *%#(#&O(#(%@ eat their words when we have a man who is part African put our country back on the right track.

Pollyanna Twins! :wave::wave:
 

Teresa

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Nov 15, 2004
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I am enough of a Pollyanna that I think the Secret Service is more than a match for a racist idiot in a dirty sheet.

Maybe I've read too many Tom Clancy books, maybe I am too young to understand that kind of hate, maybe I'm just so happy to have such a wonderful candidate for president that I am ignoring other people's prejudices and mental incapacities.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, but maybe, just maybe, I will enjoy watching the racist *%#(#&O(#(%@ eat their words when we have a man who is part African put our country back on the right track.

me and you both sistah!

btw & fyi, beachsio is a lovely friend who would never live in a racist bubble. in fact, he's an obama supporter. right beachsio? we were just kidding a while back about his confederate flag bed sheet set.:lol: picking on him since he lives in South Carolina.
 

Smiling JOe

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Nov 18, 2004
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Maybe for an election, but I also heard there were some gun toting bitter people out there!
I bet you are right, but the difference now is that if they attempt such a stupid thing, they will swiftly be brought to justice.

One sure way for Obama not to have any trouble out of those yahoos is to bring in Hillary for the VP, because those guys also have trouble with women telling them what to do.
 
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