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Miss Kitty

Meow
Jun 10, 2005
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jdarg said:
Nope - he's a baby- it was the 2 year old in training sale at Calder. Guess it's a bit better than paying that price for a yearling.


Being from KY, thoroughbred auction prices don't totally surprise me anymore. Doesn't everybody have $16 mil to spend on a horse??:rotfl:

Neigh!!!! :D
 

Smiling JOe

SoWal Expert
Nov 18, 2004
31,644
1,773
Cork On the Ocean said:
Hi high (love that :D )

I don't have any real problems with the auction process because as you say it's nothing new. I do have problems with the language that the company's website uses regarding exerting persistent psycholigical pressure or something like that. Also language about the frenzied environment creating an illusion (wrong word) of an impending sale. First, I'd have concerns about allegations of undue pressure and secondly I don't pressure any buyer into a sale because its just too important of a decision to make under any sort of pressure. That's my primary beef with the marketing.and/or process.
I have not been to their website, but I can tell you that purchases made under pressure, or in a frenzied environment are not recognized as normal conditions and therefore, do not classify as true "market value."
 

Jellyfish

Beach Lover
Jan 6, 2006
89
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Cheap money also became easy money. People buying on credit often weren't concerned about the cost of the asset, but the amount of the payment.

Very good comments, High. I have lots of clients in the car and boat biz and they relate similar comments- it's all about the payment. Pick up a major city weekend newspaper and look at the big dealer ads- most pimp the monthly payment, not price of car. And most are leases.

I think overall many Americans have become "cash flow purchasers", only looking at monthly outgo vs inflow. The media and the lenders encourage this, unfortunatley. Most times a loan officer is not looking at your financial situation from any other angle than "how can I juggle the #s to get you qualified and into that house/boat/car so I can make my fee".

That creates a tightrope effect- ie: with a small change in either income or outgo, you will see a much larger spike in delinquency, BK, etc. I suspect there are owners on the Gulf right now where the numbers dont work anymore once you factor in higher insurance, monthly note, etc. Not the majority, but a few.

There will be a rebalancing, not a crash, and there will be "investors" at the margins caught in the squeeze. That will create opportunities for the rest of us, and create more business for Mr. High Bidder, IMO.

I suspect in a great place like SoWal, however, those bargains will be snapped up quickly. There will be opportunity until supply/demand rebalances. The good thing for SoWal is that due to demo trends, boomers, QOL, etc, the demand should continue to be good. Not speculative, perhaps, but good long term.
 

GaltsGulch

Beach Comber
Nov 30, 2005
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Affordable Housing In South Walton?

Maybe this Bubble Bursting in So Wal, will allow for some substantial Section 8 housing projects to take hold. Maybe Dune Allen.

Critics of Seaside, say that it is too artificial, surreal, perfect. Solution: slap a 32 story, 300 unit HUD 'project' in there at the town center ampitheater.
 

Smiling JOe

SoWal Expert
Nov 18, 2004
31,644
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GaltsGulch said:
Affordable Housing In South Walton?

Maybe this Bubble Bursting in So Wal, will allow for some substantial Section 8 housing projects to take hold. Maybe Dune Allen.

Critics of Seaside, say that it is too artificial, surreal, perfect. Solution: slap a 32 story, 300 unit HUD 'project' in there at the town center ampitheater.
Sounds like you think that SoWal consists of only property along 30A. There is plenty of undeveloped land "stuck" in areas with low densities, which would be very suitable for affordable housing rental units. FYI- just because it is affordable, that does not degrade the level of the people living there, nor does it have to be bland in character.
 

John R

needs to get out more
Dec 31, 2005
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Conflictinator
Smiling JOe said:
Sounds like you think that SoWal consists of only property along 30A. There is plenty of undeveloped land "stuck" in areas with low densities, which would be very suitable for affordable housing rental units. FYI- just because it is affordable, that does not degrade the level of the people living there, nor does it have to be bland in character.

c'mon joe, you know sowal is really only the property below 98 :roll:
 

Rita

margarita brocolia
Dec 1, 2004
5,207
1,634
Dune Allen Beach
Cork On the Ocean said:
Hi high (love that :D )

I don't have any real problems with the auction process because as you say it's nothing new. I do have problems with the language that the company's website uses regarding exerting persistent psycholigical pressure or something like that. Also language about the frenzied environment creating an illusion (wrong word) of an impending sale. First, I'd have concerns about allegations of undue pressure and secondly I don't pressure any buyer into a sale because its just too important of a decision to make under any sort of pressure. That's my primary beef with the marketing.and/or process. ..........

Exactly.:blink: The website makes me cringe.

Reading HighBidder's posts has helped and been informative. Yet the website seems so different in tone from the posts. :dunno:
 

Jellyfish

Beach Lover
Jan 6, 2006
89
0
Atlanta
I have been to auctions for boats, cars, etc where once you jump in with a bid, one of the bidding assistants (or whatever they call them) runs over to you and literally gets in your face yelling and cajoling, using all sorts of
pressure to get you to bid higher. If you dont stick to your predetermined
limits, it's easy to get caught up in the hype....
 

Babyblue

Beach Fanatic
Mar 1, 2006
525
6
Seagrove Beach
Joe, then the last 5 years here were not normal. You could not get a counter offer back fast enough to the seller before they raised the selling price.
 

Babyblue

Beach Fanatic
Mar 1, 2006
525
6
Seagrove Beach
:rotfl:
GaltsGulch said:
Affordable Housing In South Walton?

Maybe this Bubble Bursting in So Wal, will allow for some substantial Section 8 housing projects to take hold. Maybe Dune Allen.

Critics of Seaside, say that it is too artificial, surreal, perfect. Solution: slap a 32 story, 300 unit HUD 'project' in there at the town center ampitheater.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
 
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