Proposed Rental Ordinance Update?

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  1. Elephant Child

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    It is obvious the writer of the article does not live in one of these "wedding destination" neighborhoods. She seems to have distain for those of us who live here year round, have invested fortunes to own a special home in the area, wanting to have peace and quiet in their neighborhoods. She implies that we are few in number...I beg to differ with her...
     
  2. WaltonIsOne

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    A friend of mine who lives in Walton County served as a police officer for 30 years before retiring here. From his perspective, he believes that the real problem here is that when someone violates the noise, parking, and disturbing the peace ordinances are "civil" infractions as opposed to "criminal" law violations.

    His view is that the Sheriff's department in Walton County is forced to focus on public safety, driver safety, and criminal law enforcement due to the fact that there are just not enough resources for deputies to be running all over the county and issuing parking tickets and noise ordinance violations for every event going on in the county on or off season.

    He could be right.

    This could be a situation where the county has existing laws that could be enforced, but not enough county "governance" committment or available county budget resources to do so.

    This is the same problem the county has regarding beach ordinance enforcement. This is why we often see glass bottles on the beach, etc..
     
  3. LJ123

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    Any update on the March 22 meeting?
     
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  5. miznotebook

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    The most recent draft of the ordinance is attached. There may be changes before the hearing, which is now set in conjunction with the 4 p.m. April 12 county commission meeting at the South Walton Annex.
     
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    One must wonder how this new "version" of the proposed ordinance is supposed to rid the county of noise, parking, littering, and the disturbance of the peace issues that were originally voiced by those property owners who were living near "event houses" and other rentals that were holding "private" weddings and other gatherings.

    This issue still comes down to the need for the county to enforce existing noise, parking, littering and disturbing the peace ordinances and the allocation of resources to do so.

    This current version of the legislation does nothing more than regulate business occupancies and short term rental occupancies while generating county fee income versus addressing the real problem. The problem being the county's inability to enforce the current laws.

    Maybe a new version of an ordinance needs to be written that simply states the county government's affirmation that local law enforcement, code enforcement, and the fire marshall will enforce the laws under their departments' jurisdiction to ensure the "peaceful enjoyment" of one's property.

    Then the county should dedicate personnel and funds to enforce these existing laws using funds already contained within the TDC's current budget. Of course it would be necessary to cut other TDC expenses to make these funds available.
     
  7. lenzoe

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    Question: What is "transient tax"? Is that the bed tax?

    I don't really understand the reason for this certificate business. Is this the county's method of trying to ensure its getting bed tax from short-term rentals? If so, I don't see that this would help. The owners that are currently paying their taxes (we are among those) will continue to do so. The ones that aren't won't be lining up to go apply for a certificate in the first place. This just makes the ones paying the taxes and following the rules have to jump through more paperwork hoops. Why?
     
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    Attached is the ordinance draft as of April 6.

    The hearing is scheduled in conjunction with the 4 p.m. April 12 county commission meeting at the South Walton Courthouse Annex.
     
  9. Matt J

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    So it finally comes out that this is just a way for the county to make additional money off of already cash strapped tourists.

    Attention County Officials:

    This takes money out of local businesses and in turn out of locals pockets.

    Good thing they laid off all those folks from the Planning Department, now they'll be hiring in cronies to process all of the permits.

    I don't want to get her sucked in or state an opinion, but I wonder if ShallowsNole could post exactly how many known rental units there are in South Walton?
     
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    [SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
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  11. Matt J

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    What sort of threatening nature were these emails? Death threats, or threats against her job as in votes lost?
     
  12. WaltonIsOne

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    Maybe threats concerning the release of skeletons hidden in someone's closet. Who knows.

    Sara appears to be a pretty good commissioner and a good citizen, so, someone else must be threatened other than her.
     
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    My understanding is the latter. I wonder how that works against someone who plans on retiring after this term?
     
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    Sara is a very good commissioner. While I do not always agree with her, I know she has nothing but what she feels is the best interest of the citizens of Walton County when she takes on these issues.
     
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    Trickle down baby......trickle down!!!
     

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