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Capricious

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Jul 11, 2005
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How could it possibly hurt anyone? :dunno: It might help save a child's childhood.:blink: IJS...one can always opt out.



Agreed.

But if parents opt-out of birth control education, they should
also be required to opt-out of taxpayer assistance for the resulting
grandchildren.

As someone far more articulate than I once said, "some people believe
that life begins at conception and ends at birth."

The cost certainly does not end at birth.
 
What is really pathetic is all the people that seem to not mind the government passing out birth control of any sort. When did parents abdicate their responsibility to society to the government? I read nothing but criticism and insults hurled at the way government is run on this board, yet some of these same people have no problem with those that run government handling their children's health issues? Sheesh! Talk about scary.


Not as scary as government NOT distributing condoms to the public and then having the power to tell a woman what she can and can't do with her uterus.
 

scooterbug44

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May 8, 2007
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IMO the big issue is getting people to USE birth control devices and condoms to prevent pregnancy and STDs (though some might say pregnancy is a STD too ;-)).

Both my parents have commented that it is odd how socially acceptable/more mainstream it has become to have children outside of marriage. They have the crazy idea that you should be in a committed long term relationship and smart enough to use birth control effectively before you should be able to be a parent :dunno:.
 

30A Skunkape

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There are other variables that might explain this bump besides abstinence only sex ed. There could be a role of improved access to prenatal care. The data here shows a clear bump in c-sections and perhaps earlier intervention in high risk pregnancies and state of the art neonatal care could account for a rise. There also is no mention of abortion rates during this time;if the rate of elective abortion is declining then we obviously will see more live births. I also wonder if we see a bump in the birth rate by default as a result of a massive influx of illegal aliens. I am not saying lack of decent sex ed does not play a role, I just think there could be other factors at work. After all, the birth rate is increasing in all age groups except young teens according to what I am reading here. Gotta love statistics:lol:
 

JUL

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Nov 3, 2007
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You can educate...but if education was all it took there would not be a controversial discussion or funding r/t birth control in the schools.
We all do things we know we shouldn't do....some choices have a more lasting impact.
Would you rather taxes be used on bc or food clothing and shelter for teen mom and babe...
 

Jdarg

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There are other variables that might explain this bump besides abstinence only sex ed. There could be a role of improved access to prenatal care. The data here shows a clear bump in c-sections and perhaps earlier intervention in high risk pregnancies and state of the art neonatal care could account for a rise. There also is no mention of abortion rates during this time;if the rate of elective abortion is declining then we obviously will see more live births. I also wonder if we see a bump in the birth rate by default as a result of a massive influx of illegal aliens. I am not saying lack of decent sex ed does not play a role, I just think there could be other factors at work. After all, the birth rate is increasing in all age groups except young teens according to what I am reading here. Gotta love statistics:lol:

Yes, there are other variables and statistics inthis article, but it is the rise in TEEN births that caught my attention. Too many teens are getting pregnant in the first place should be the main concern here.
 

Jdarg

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You can educate...but if education was all it took there would not be a controversial discussion or funding r/t birth control in the schools.
We all do things we know we shouldn't do....some choices have a more lasting impact.
Would you rather taxes be used on bc or food clothing and shelter for teen mom and babe...

That is a ridiculous question. There should be plenty of funding for both. Of course if there was a bigger push in sex education and BC distribution, less tax money would be needed for the teen moms because there were be fewer.

Washington DC has had a successful program and reducing teen pregnancies. If you have time, listen to this NPR report.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16197009
 

scooterbug44

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One thing I noted in my Googleing is that the percentage of teen births is shifting more and more to unmarried teens.

Bear in mind that "teen birth" statistics include anyone 19 years old and younger.
 

Capricious

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Jul 11, 2005
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"...Not as scary as government NOT distributing condoms to the public and then having the power to tell a woman what she can and can't do with her uterus..."


According to the U. S. census data 2005, females make up 50.7 % of
the population of the U.S.A.

Add in a few men (such as myself) who agree with this position, and why is
this even an issue?

Because there appears to be a large segment of the
female population that is just fine with government control of their lives.

I grew up in the era of N.O.W.

Although some progress was made, it now appears that things are going
backwards in many respects.

Apparently some women are just fine with that.
 
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