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sisters4

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I was just thinking it would be better trying to save one of them than just plucking them out of the ground with a backhoe and tossing them into some pile.
 

Alice 30A

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Feb 18, 2005
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Seagrove Trees

It is very sad. I am glad Cube McGee (Developer of Seagrove) is not here to see. It would make him very upset. He loved Seagrove with the oak trees and always tried to save them.
 

Lynnie

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Apr 18, 2007
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Here is some info. on Coastal Live Oak.
Coastal Live Oak - Natural Organic Home Garden Health Howard Garrett Dirt Doctor

We were going to transplant a mature tree when a tornado split my Grandmother's pecan tree; it costs a fortune and is risky that the root ball system will survive. With some oaks, the root system is sprawling. I have a Water Oak now and the root system is as large as the canopy. But, this article does state that the Coastal Live Oaks can tolerate construction around its roots. Those were gorgeous trees. I personally would prefer that corner exactly as it was, but since that obviously isn't the case, I am wishing the owners well.
 

GoodWitch58

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Oct 10, 2005
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Transplanting a mature tree probably costs a fortune.

So what? You can't put a $$ on everything. Some things are worth more than money.
No one is asking you, or anyone else, to pay for it. But, someone might have been willing if given the chance.

It does not matter what it costs, if someone is willing to do it. The cost to the soul of an area to simply cut down 150 year old trees is -- in the long term -- much more expensive.

"How can you buy or sell the sky--the warmth of the land? The idea is strange to us. We do not own the freshness of the air or the sparkle of the water. How can you buy them from us?...We know that the white man does not understand our way. One portion of the land is the same to him as the next, for he is a stranger who comes in the night and takes from the land whatever he needs..."
Chief Seattle.
 

Kurt

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Oct 15, 2004
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A tree spade like the one below has been used around here a few times for relatively small trees. There is a 10-inch trunk limit for the size tree that can be moved. The ones at Seagrove Market would have been much too large with giant and complex root systems.

TreeSpade3.95191049_std.jpg
 

GoodWitch58

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Oct 10, 2005
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Sorry, Kurt, I disagree. I lived in Tallahassee for years--where there is a serious tree ordinance--no one can cut trees without special permission. I have seen Florida State University and others save and transplant very large trees.

Tree Relocation - Environmental Design, World Wide tree transplant and relocation specialists.

Environmental Design has no limitations when it comes to transplanting giant trees. We have transplanted numerous giant trees well in excess of 1 million pounds, including the world's largest tree ever relocated.
 
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kathydwells

Darlene is my middle name, not my nickname
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I do not blame the owners for wanting the "highest and best use" for their property. I know traditions die hard and change can be tough, but progress continues. All good things come to an end and all good things have a beginning.

Bulldozing dunes, polluting coastal dune lakes, and clear cutting forests are crimes - the passing of a Seagrove landmark and a few pretty oaks pale in comparison. All things in this life are impermanent.

http://www.sowal.com/bb/real-estate...-corner-30a-395-seagrove-market-location.html

http://www.sowal.com/bb/dining-food/45372-v-restaurant-coming-seagrove-395-scenic-30a.html

Kurt, with all due respect and I mean that, it is as though you are saying that those of us who love the Market and have made some wonderful memories there should not feel so bad about it going away because newer and better things will take it's place. Well, I do feel sad, and bad. Yes, all things change in the name of progress I suppose, but that will not change how I feel.

Just because I am sad that beautiful OLD LIVE trees have been destroyed for the sake of progress, does not mean that I care less about the polluting of coastal dune lakes, or the clear cutting of forests or bulldozing dunes. I understand the severity of those crimes. To me I think it is a crime to kill those old trees at the Market. I just wish they could have somehow been incorporated into the new establishment.

I also, do not know the owners of the new "V". I am sure they are wonderful people and I am sure they want their new business to succeed. I wish them well. I do.

I will however, forever miss that corner of 30-A the way it used to be.
 

Jdarg

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Feb 15, 2005
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Sorry, Kurt, I disagree. I lived in Tallahassee for years--where there is a serious tree ordinance--no one can cut trees without special permission. I have seen Florida State University and others save and transplant very large trees.

Tree Relocation - Environmental Design, World Wide tree transplant and relocation specialists.


I grew up in a "Tree City USA"- no cutting trees or trenching under them without a permit. Wonder if it could work here?

Tree City USA—The Arbor Day Foundation
 
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