Seagrove Village Market Cafe Moving

[ShallowsNole]

The best proposal would be to keep the current, historic Village Market open. I've heard there are problems with the building but I haven't heard what they are. I do know from 1982 - 1984 you didn't have to run heat in the winter and our coolers were so cold that Coca-Cola would freeze. And it was idyllic.

 

[Jenksy]

The best proposal would be to keep the current, historic Village Market open. I've heard there are problems with the building but I haven't heard what they are. I do know from 1982 - 1984 you didn't have to run heat in the winter and our coolers were so cold that Coca-Cola would freeze. And it was idyllic.

It's being torn down to make way for condos. Where were the neighbors when that was approved? Oh, they were still living in Atlanta. Certainly will be glad for the hideous brick buyilding next to it is torn down.

 

[John G]

If you're referring to the old bank, I agree. That crappy business that sells nothing but cheap crap can go to! Go to PCB or Destin.

 

[BeachSteelers]

If it meet the LDC codes then I have no issue with it. But it isn't even close to complying with the codes. As for being all southern nice about this I respectfully decline that option too. These public paid officials aren't working for the public good. Purposely allowing a variance to be requested while knowing it isn't valid is just too much. Or last straw if that's better. And I haven't any issue with making them eat their own words. For me to have to spend thousands for an attorney while these public employees try and basically rape me and my investment is beyond insulting and isn't deserving of being all sweet tea with them.
As for Downtown Seagrove proposal I can't even get a reply as to how Tech review somehow missed a 22% increase in their allowable ISR. Only 22% that's not available for waivers, deviations or variance yet it still goes onto as approved by Planning. Sure their written plan claims 59% of the 60% allowed but did anyone check their survey. Heck no cause it lists 82%.
Screw being nice to incompetents and crooks. It won't get you anywhere but screwed.

 

[John G]

If it meet the LDC codes then I have no issue with it. But it isn't even close to complying with the codes. As for being all southern nice about this I respectfully decline that option too. These public paid officials aren't working for the public good. Purposely allowing a variance to be requested while knowing it isn't valid is just too much. Or last straw if that's better. And I haven't any issue with making them eat their own words. For me to have to spend thousands for an attorney while these public employees try and basically rape me and my investment is beyond insulting and isn't deserving of being all sweet tea with them.
As for Downtown Seagrove proposal I can't even get a reply as to how Tech review somehow missed a 22% increase in their allowable ISR. Only 22% that's not available for waivers, deviations or variance yet it still goes onto as approved by Planning. Sure their written plan claims 59% of the 60% allowed but did anyone check their survey. Heck no cause it lists 82%.
Screw being nice to incompetents and crooks. It won't get you anywhere but screwed.

You took the words right out of my mouth and thought process... I love the references to "being all southern nice" and "being all sweet tea"... Absolutely 100% on the money.

One of the communication problems that exists down here is that if you are to the point, blunt and honest, you are considered to be rude and abrasive.

If you sweet talk, smile and lie through your teeth, you are polite and admirable.

Stick to your guns and don't worry about your tone. You are not out of line, you have a very FACT based argument and the problem some people have is that you've upset the Unicorns and the smiling Rainbows they see every day...

 

[Danny Glidewell]

I have no problem with stating your points and fighting for what you believe. But there is nothing wrong with "being all Southern nice" which simply means to communicate using common courtesy and treating people as you would like to be treated. "Being all sweet tea" would prohibit use of words like "corrupt" and "crook" without providing proof of your statement. Opinions and assumptions are not proof nor is the fact that one disagrees with you. And you have to remember that we natives grew up together and have known each other literally all of our lives. So, when you accuse someone like Mark Davis, whom I have known since school days, of being a crook, you lose me at the start. Because Mark Davis has always been a straight arrow and one of the good guys. That does not mean I always agree with him, but I always respect him. In Beachsteeler's case, I agree with him based on the facts and my personal belief system. That is all he needs to win me over.

 

[Dawn]

You took the words right out of my mouth and thought process... I love the references to "being all southern nice" and "being all sweet tea"... Absolutely 100% on the money.

One of the communication problems that exists down here is that if you are to the point, blunt and honest, you are considered to be rude and abrasive.

If you sweet talk, smile and lie through your teeth, you are polite and admirable.

Stick to your guns and don't worry about your tone. You are not out of line, you have a very FACT based argument and the problem some people have is that you've upset the Unicorns and the smiling Rainbows they see every day...

Insulting our civil servants, business owners and neighbors is not acceptable. Go to facebook or go to a meeting and be rude, but it's not cool on this forum. This site has always been about communication and bringing people together for civil discussion. Not axe grinding and shouting. I agree plain talk is best on issues and no need to be fake. And I bet you're not rude when you're face to face with people.

 

[BeachSteelers]

So it's ok for them to insult me. Not returning phone calls, sunshine requests or emails. That's what our taxes are for... They forget whom their employer really is now don't they. I call knowing allowing a variance that isn't valid or has a legal leg in hopes of sliding it through crooked and corrupt because at the end of the rainbow that's exactly what it is. I got a Terrible Towel for those that need to shed some tears over a my choice of words. And Thanks John G, I know you know the back room deals in Walton very well.
Plain talk has gotten a reply of silence from these paid public employees, they themselves have forced me to be, what some my say is, rude. But respect is a 2 way street and continually ignoring valid questions only to file them away in a folder isn't communication it's an insult. So before everyone labels me whatever they want bear in mind they started this not I. By trying to skirt their civic responsibility of protecting the public's interest. So pardon me for being Blunt. Being kind got me nowhere. And good luck to all the haters when the same crap happens next to your House. Take the same first advice I got from my Commish, get a lawyer. See how much that brightens up your mood and shrinks your bottom line since that's what your property taxes seem to fund.
And Dawn I give people back what they give me and rest assured if and when I prove my case your tax dollars will be forced to pay for my incurred legal fees. Hope you think that's cool.

 

[Danny Glidewell]

Beachsteelers, I agree with you, I just say things in a different way. I understand where you are coming from and offer no excuse for misbehavior from public employees. And frankly it is a sad day when a citizen has to get an attorney in order to effectively deal with our government. But don't make the mistake that just because someone is not loud and abrasive means they are against you or yours. I will say again that I find granting an 80% variance to anyone is not in the public's interest and should be turned down. Best of luck to you.

 

[Misty]

So, when you accuse someone like Mark Davis, whom I have known since school days, of being a crook, you lose me at the start. Because Mark Davis has always been a straight arrow and one of the good guys. That does not mean I always agree with him, but I always respect him.

Danny,
I was telling someone the other day that I too have always found Mark Davis to be a stand up guy and when I have had personal dealings with him he was honest to a fault.

I do think however (my personal opinion) is that he has to be overwhelmed with the magnitude of things that have come to the Sunshine recently and trying to deal with so many of the issues the County has tried to hide for so long has got to feel like you are being dragged under by a rip current and there is no life guard on duty.

I'd even be willing to bet that he has had thoughts that leaving his private practice wasn't such a good thing after all.