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Kurt

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Just wondering what your experience was growing up and what your thoughts are now.

Okaloosa schools ban corporal punishment | punishment, corporal, school - News - Northwest Florida Daily News

Okaloosa schools ban corporal punishment

Gov, Charlie Crist signed legislation last week that has Florida school districts following the lead of Okaloosa County.

The new law requires districts that still use corporal punishment to review the policy at a School Board meeting and take public testimony every three years.

Districts that do not meet the requirement would be banned from paddling students as a form of discipline.

Joe Skelly, a psychotherapist in Mary Esther, has fought against corporal punishment in local schools since 1993.

"(With Bill 1540), you can see the tide of public opinion turning because corporal punishment's ineffective," he said. "We honestly believe it to be child abuse. That's what the American Psychiatric Association calls it. Plus, at a time when we're cutting costs, the exposure of one lawsuit based on corporal punishment would be devastating."

The Okaloosa County School District will not be affected by the new bill. The School Board voted 4-1 last week to ban corporal punishment. The new policy, which took effect immediately, was not prompted by the pending legislation.

The disciplinary measure was on the decline long before last Wednesday's vote. Instances of corporal punishment dropped from 468 in 2000 to 194 in 2008. One-third of the county's schools had already prohibited paddling.

In the district's first week without paddling, Superintendent of Schools Alexis Tibbetts said she has noticed no impact.

"There are so many alternatives for discipline in schools," Tibbetts said. "There's many different ways of disciplining children. Corporal punishment certainly was a tool, but it was a mechanism or technique that wasn't absolutely necessary in view of the fact that we have a lot of different alternatives."

Skelly said he was ecstatic with the board's decision.

"It confirms that we live in a progressive area," he said. "And it confirms my faith in Alexis and the rest of the School Board."
 

scooterbug44

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I don't think the schools should be physically punishing kids. Totally unnecessary IMO. The idea of being paddled by a teacher is just strange and weird to me (and spankings were not a rare occurrence in my childhood so I am not anti-corporal punishment).

I DO think that teachers should be able to punish kids in a wide variety of ways to control their classrooms w/o parents overriding/eliminating those punishments.

And I think some kids around here could REALLY benefit from some spankings from their parents! ;-)
 

Jdarg

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Spanking a child or animal is barbaric.

It makes me ill when I go through the kids beginning of the school year stack of official forms and come across the "permission to use corporal punishment" form- parents can give the school permission to spank their children.:shock: I about passed out when I saw that Walton County makes spanking an "option"- when I first saw it, I thought it was some sort of joke.
 

Susan Horn

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No corporal punishment in schools, whatsoever. Period. Paragraph. I don't see any room for discussion on that and am horrified to learn it is still something that must be debated.

I remain deeply conflicted on the use of spanking by parents, having resorted to it myself out of sheer desperation when nothing else was getting the child's attention-- but I don't feel good about that. I think there may be some rare occasions where a smack on the bottom is what it takes to get a child's attention about something that is potentially life-threatening to the child or someone else (like running out in traffic, playing with fire, or going in the water without adult supervision/permission).

But time out, taking away privileges, being sent to bed early, etc., can go a long way in helping young ones learn to behave safely and appropriately in different settings. Discipline is not fun for child or parent, and it's not easy to be consistent; it seems lots and lots of parents these days have a hard time doing that tough love bit. Perhaps they are even outright opposed to it, I haven't interviewed anyone lately on the topic. But parents are supposed to be parents, not buddies to their kids. IMNSHO.

One of the toughest issues I dealt with when the kids were younger was how to handle it when other parents failed to discipline their children who were hitting, biting, otherwise being violently aggressive with my kids (with the bully's parents present and fully aware of what was happening). Parents of bullies don't often take kindly to requests for discipline from the parents' of their kids' victims, something I learned the hard way.
 

Lynnie

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I've been in trouble since kindergarten. I got paddled with a paddle. Got my hand slapped, too.....got time out at recess and had to sit in the corner in first grade, but was Teacher's Pet. Got detention in high school; somehow was honor student. (Got away with tons that they either didn't know about or got tired of me being in their offices.) All it did was hurt my feelings.

That said, I do not think school prinicipals or teachers should paddle children.
 

Teresa

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Spanking a child or animal is barbaric.

It makes me ill when I go through the kids beginning of the school year stack of official forms and come across the "permission to use corporal punishment" form- parents can give the school permission to spank their children.:shock: I about passed out when I saw that Walton County makes spanking an "option"- when I first saw it, I thought it was some sort of joke.

I totally agree.

yes, children need discipline. hitting is not discipline and does not teach anything good. children need a lot of things to help them learn and grow. being hit by an adult they trust is not one of them.

yes, we got some licks way back when at school and/or home. we know better now - we've known better for quite some time. hitting people is just wrong - and children are people. Walton County school system needs to update their policy and soon.

I would not hit my dog. why would I hit my child? I don't get it.
 
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Dia

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I definitely don't believe any school personnel should ever be paddling a child. Its not necessary and with some personnel and the feelings towards students, I could see it as down right dangerous. I remember reading about cases where personnel went way overboard.

I actually have a hard time believing some states or districts still allow this. As many things that have changed due to liability factors, you'd think this would have the potential to be a huge legal issue for them.
 
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