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Stalworth and Bullard Beach Acesses get new signage

Discussion in 'Local Government and Groups' started by joho, Mar 17, 2015.

  1. joho

    joho Beach Fanatic

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    The residents on the south side of 30A in Beach Highlands have convinced Cindy Meadows to approve approximately 6 billboard signs that were placed throughout "their" neighborhood deterring parking at two of the beach accesses.

    Arvcon the company who was hired by the county to preform beach access parking evaluations along 30A stated no parking changes at this time for the 6 parking spots located at the two accesses in Beach Highlands. The results provoked the residents to request the sign placement with the approval from the county.

    The neighborhood has been working with Miss Meadows and the committee for over a year to keep "their" public beaches private.




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  2. Andy A

    Andy A Beach Fanatic

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    I have a question. Is the pavement and shoulders private or public roadway?
     
  3. beachmouse

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    Des it matter? I've lived in a number of places that restricted parking along certain public roads in the name of safety or better traffic management. Don't see a big deal here if the county wants to restrict parking on the shoulder for other reasons.

    Just because land is owned by the government doesn't mean that anyone can use it for whatever they please and however they please.
     
  4. Leader of the Banned

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  5. Mike Jones

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    I would like shoulders clear and available for parking. Gated communities are good places to live if you don't want the public near you.

    Most of all though I hate the multiplying of signs everywhere in a beutiful place.
     
  6. Leader of the Banned

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    I think it's more a matter of not wanting people parking on your property.
     
  7. Bob Wells

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    I have driven some big red trucks back there and it is a nightmare. Just my thoughts.
     
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    I've been through there on a slow day, and you see cars parked on peoples yards and blocking driveways. I think the residents have a pretty good case.
     
  9. Zebraspots

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    Guess we need to find a different place to park and access the beach.

    How about the big piece of county owned land behind the gate? According to the property appraiser website, the county owns over 2.5 acres of land at the end of Stallworth that could (and should) be used for parking and a beach access IMO.

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  10. Bob Hudson

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    Hmmm - seem to remember something about the fact that's protected due to the fact it's a habitat for the beach mouse.

    Could be wrong
     
  11. NotDeadYet

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    Not wrong. It was purchased with Trust for Public Land funds and deeded over to the county. It's in the deed, it's for habitat protection. Nothing to stop people using the beach there though as long as they don't trample the dunes. Nothing, that is, except that it's pretty much inaccessible to anyone not within walking or biking distance.
     
  12. joho

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    TTSItouth Walton County Parking Needs Assessment AVCON, INCBoard of County Commissioners/Tourist Development Council Walton County, Florida​
    The Stallworth Preserve NBA has limited access as a result of Stallworth Boulevard beinglocated within a gated community. No parking spaces are associated with this beachaccess. According to the county data, the beach access is still available to the public butvehicular access to the access is limited. The beach access was purchased to preservethe Lake Stallworth, a protected coast dune lake and outfall to the Gulf of Mexico.The Beach Highlands NBA includes sixparallel parking spaces located withinthe public right​
    ofway adjacent to theNBA. The parking associated with thisaccess was at capacity during the timeof the inventory.The Bullard Road NBA has no parkingspace and this access is considered afoot path.The Stallworth Preserve, Beach Highlands, and Bullard Road NBA’s do not have publicfacilities (restrooms or showers) associated with the neighborhood beach accesses. TheBeach Highlands NBA does accommodate vehicular parking (six spaces) as well as bikeparking.
    b) Right​
    ofWay Description
    The right​
    ofway along Highland Avenue, South Bishop and Bullard Road isapproximately 64 ft with vegetation extending to the edge of pavement along a majorityof the roadway. The driveway spacing ranges from 55 ft to approximately 75 ft in mostof these areas. The roadway elevations range from 45 ft to approximately 10 ft abovemean sea level (MSL) and there are significant vertical curves associated with thesethree roadways. The close driveway spacing and significant changes in grade do notpromote a safe environment for rightofway parking.The vegetation extending to the roadway edge is also a safety concern in thisneighborhood. Section 14.01.01 of the Walton County Land Development Code (LDC)states that, “Nothing shall be erected, placed, parked, planted, or allowed to grow insuch a manner as to materially impede vision between a height of two feet and ten feetabove the grade, measured at the centerline of the intersection.” The code defines anintersection as a driveway, residential street, collector, or arterial road and the followingdistances from the centerline of the intersection in relation to street type per the LDC:
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    Driveway or residential street. Distance from centerline of intersection—50 feet
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    Collector. Distance from centerline of intersection—80 feet
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    Arterial. Distance from centerline of intersection—100 feet
    The roadways do not meet the vision triangle requirements for South Bishop, BullardRoad, or Highland Avenue. In an effort to meet the LDC, the county should considerclearing the right​
    ofway for these three roads to provide the clear rightofways
    required for safe access by the emergency rescue vehicles.
     
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  13. Teresa

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    Those signs are horrible.

    Joho - are they having tons of cars parking in yards? What's the problem here?
     
  14. joho

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    As mentioned in the report last paragraph, report/study suggests the county clear ROW's due to safety measures (emergency vehicles, etc.) and the owners refuse to allow it of the county. In that case the parking is limited in most areas of the S/D.

    The county has given Beach Highland owners favoritism over other neighborhoods!
    Bottom Line!!
     
  15. NotDeadYet

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    In my opinion the county should clear ALL of its Right of Ways in SoWal. There are tons of illegal signs and obstructions that would impede emergency vehicles all around 30A. After they clear them they need to go through street by street with uniform signage and only post No Parking signs where there is not clear line of sight or enough ROW for safe parking. That ought to be the only criteria. Give the SO posse ticket books for the legitimate illegal parked cars and let the rest of the ROW's be used by the public, who owns them.
     

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