Smiling JOe said:
So what is your point, BMBV? Did I miss it? Is it that to date, seawalls have not been the biggest cause of erosion? If you would state your case, rather than running around in circles trying to make us guess it... oh, never mind -- that would make too much sense.
Here's the way I see it.
A few weeks ago, everyone was arguing how ALL retaining walls and and the actions of ALL gulf front property owners were the sure death to the beach as we know it. I took major offense to this (as if all of you out there couldn't tell

). Looks like I was practically the only one on this thread to take a stand in defense of gulf front owners (in general). My sense is that most of them are a lot smarter than me and value their time much more than I do to enter into this debate when, as one poster said, "it's already in"....talking about the walls.
Regardless of what was said in these threads, (AGAIN just like "class warefare", "religion" and "abortion"), I felt that REGARDLESS of my argument and substance to back it up, that I felt that I was NOT opening the eyes of very many mis-guided people who were all too quick to slam ALL gulf front owners and their logical actions to TRY to protect their property.
Smiling JOe, I perceive you to be a person of decent reasoning and moderation. I do understand why you probably are pissed at me for my "underhanded" little game regarding "class warfare" that, BY THE WAY and FOR THE RECORD was not brought up by me,
but clearly and intentionally brought up in the Pensacola News Journal. AGAIN, I apologize for the method but not for the results (at least as I and a few others see it).
Hell, at least I called you an intelligent dolphin swimming in a school of tuna. That, believe it or not, was a compliment.
I'm not hung up on "class warfare" at all. Some people, for some reason, feel comfortable in directing blame for many "problems" using that game.
I pointed out the infamous paragraph
the way that I did (and hooked a lot more people than I imagined it would) because .....
If I had first brought it up that the Pensacola article said "extravagent homes... rich... well connected", I'm sure eveyone would have countered with some argument defending the article since part of the article supported "their cause". Again, as I've said before, rightly or wrongly, it would be logical to question the remainder of the article. It's called credibility. And in my mind, they lost it with that statement (and other reasons that will come to light soon enough).
But since I intentionally set everyone up the way I did, you have to admit, I believe I made my point.
And that point is that there are people who defend the turtles, sometimes more for their "own ulterior sense of satisfaction of blindly slamming gulf front property owners" than for the turtles' genuine interests.
SO with that said.....
So what is your point, BMBV? Did I miss it?
Smiling JOe, my point is that the sometimes there are more things involved in making up the total picture than a few here on these threads would have you believe.
Is it that to date, seawalls have not been the biggest cause of erosion?
I think that statement (question) is TRUE at its very core. There were very few retaining walls installed (relatively speaking) before Hurricane Dennis. Yet erosion of our bluffs continued. PERIOD.
If you would state your case, rather than running around in circles trying to make us guess it... oh, never mind -- that would make too much sense.
I apologize again and again and again.... I'm still blue in the face for apologizing previously for the method of my point making. You know if the situation was reversed, I think I would have acknowledged
"You got me on that one... I do see some prejudicial overtones with the Pensacola New Journal article."
Smiling JOe, let me ask this question....
Why don't you summarize your opinions on the information exchanged on all the threads. You are a very verbose kind of person (again based on the plethora of posts everywhere on this website). Put it out there. Give it your best shot. I know I certainly have.
Best Regards,
BMBV