Support and Defend the Constitution

[Bob]

Maybe you should ask the chosen one--Obama--what the goal is in Afghanistan. He seems intent on winning the war there.

How about answering the question about WWI and WWII before we delve into the other minor wars? Where would we be if there had been a couple hundred million Bob's walking around the US, Russia and Europe in the early to mid 1900's.

If you can't come up with an answer, here it is. We would be in a world of hurt shouting Heil Hitler to each other with no more Jews, no more Muslims, no more Christians, etc. in the world.

Pacifists are only pacifists until it hits home directly. If someone came into your home to kill you and your family, would you defend yourself or simply sit there and let it happen?

i've posted this past week that no war since ww2 was necessary. i'm perfectly willing for the federal government to cede large areas of the south to be called jesusland. you will the be free to label anyone not like you thugs so that you may have never ending war, except on sundays. sunday will be a day of rest and tithing with money you would have paid in taxes to the marxist feds.

 

[Bob]

the word genocide did not appear in the constitution either. how many slaves did george washington have at mount vernon?

the answer is washington had twice as many slaves as thomas jefferson, but jefferson had more sex with his slaves.

 

[fisher]

the word genocide did not appear in the constitution either. how many slaves did george washington have at mount vernon?

I believe it was around 300. If I read correctly, he wanted to free his slaves but his wife did not want to free hers. He did not want to break up the families that had intermarried by freeing some of the slaves but not all.

Slavery was flat out wrong. But, the constitution did not make slavery legal. So, they did not get it totally wrong IN THE CONSTITUTION, nor did they get it right by strictly forbidding it intially. Some of the founding fathers were for and some against. Unfortunately, it took another 170 years for everyone to get it right in our code of laws to ban all discrimination based on race and sex (actually there are still too many people, both white and black, that can't look past skin color in dealing with fellow human beings).

 

[Bob]

Who says I'm a fat white guy??? Who says I don't have daughters??

bobb j has a black helicopter following you to the porno shop everyday. he's referring to lawmakers/judges.

 

[LuciferSam]

I believe it was around 300. If I read correctly, he wanted to free his slaves but his wife did not want to free hers. He did not want to break up the families that had intermarried by freeing some of the slaves but not all.

Slavery was flat out wrong. But, the constitution did not make slavery legal. So, they did not get it totally wrong IN THE CONSTITUTION, nor did they get it right by strictly forbidding it intially. Some of the founding fathers were for and some against. Unfortunately, it took another 170 years for everyone to get it right in our code of laws to ban all discrimination based on race and sex (actually there are still too many people, both white and black, that can't look past skin color in dealing with fellow human beings).

Great! Thank you! Getting back to the original point, you have clearly demonstrated that at least some of the founding fathers were wrong about things.

 

[Bob]

I believe it was around 300. If I read correctly, he wanted to free his slaves but his wife did not want to free hers. He did not want to break up the families that had intermarried by freeing some of the slaves but not all.

Slavery was flat out wrong. But, the constitution did not make slavery legal. So, they did not get it totally wrong IN THE CONSTITUTION, nor did they get it right by strictly forbidding it intially. Some of the founding fathers were for and some against. Unfortunately, it took another 170 years for everyone to get it right in our code of laws to ban all discrimination based on race and sex (actually there are still too many people, both white and black, that can't look past skin color in dealing with fellow human beings).

so who was the father of our country? who was the mack-daddy of the founding fathers fisher? slaveholder? who wrote the declaration of independence, in it stating that all men are created equal? another slaveholder? any idea...you are into detail, correct?

 

[GoodWitch58]

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Central governments should always be balanced by strong local governments. (See Hitler, Stalin, Kim Jong, Chavez, etc. for references as to why..)

Now, here is something that might make me a bit afraid: the house on C Street; if they are inviting some of the lobbyists from K Street, we may really have something to be afraid of. I guess the situation must have awakened some other folks as well...

WORLD Magazine | All in the family | Emily Belz, Edward Lee Pitts | Aug 29, 09

It is the role of the press to expose this kind of thing for what it is...and that is part of the responsibility we each have to make sure our elected officials are behaving appropriately IMO and from my reading of our country's founding.

 

[fisher]

Great! Thank you! Getting back to the original point, you have clearly demonstrated that at least some of the founding fathers were wrong about things.

Yes, my question was meant to refer to what they got wrong in drafting the constitution. Not what they got wrong in their personal lives.

 

[LuciferSam]

bobb j has a black helicopter following you to the porno shop everyday. he's referring to lawmakers/judges.

I think I see the problem. A debate needs at least two participants.

 

[fisher]

I typically avoid this issue but after raising daughters and having all their friends over to the house over years am told that I don't get to decide what a woman does with her body. I am told this issue should be off limits for fat white guys to decide.

In the most recent Gallup poll regarding abortion, more women said they were pro life than said they were pro choice. Guess your daughters and her friends are in the minority on this one.

All the women in my extended families are very pro life. They believe the woman has the right to make a choice to have sex that might produce a life. But, they do not believe that a woman has the choice to end the life of another human being once conceived.