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". . . the Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission ruling -- which removes decades of campaign spending limits on corporations -- opens the floodgates for the purchases and sale of the law.

"It allows corporations to spend all the money they want to buy and sell elected officials through the campaign process . . . It allows them to reward political sellouts, and it allows them to punish elected officials who actually try to do what's right for the people."

Read more of what Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) has to say.


If Alan Grayson is against it I would think it is a grand idea:rotfl:
 

hnooe

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If Alan Grayson is against it I would think it is a grand idea:rotfl:

Alan Grayson is a new American hero on the Left--just as Michelle Bachman and Sara Palin are both new American hero's on the Right.

The only difference is that he is both intelligent and logical.:rotfl:
 

Miss Critter

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Anyone who believes that corporations don't ALREADY own this country and its leadership has been asleep for the past several years.
 

GoodWitch58

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Actually, they did. Corporations existed in Europe and were already manipulating financial markets.

Remember from your American History class reading about the Hudson Bay Company? It was a corporation.

They did not exist "as they exist today..." I am thinking primarily of the ones who own huge media outlets like network or cable TV stations--and multi-national financial institutions....quite different from the Hudson Bay Company, although I agree that corporations have always manipulated whatever they need to, in order to make a profit for their investors, and many of them have, at the same time, given much to good causes such as disasters and research for cures for disease..just in the founders' time they did not have the instant communication and world financial markets to help them.
 

GoodWitch58

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The only thing I see is that unions should be under the same restrictions as corporations and churches. That might level the playing field a little.

What restrictions? The way I read it, both the unions and the corporations have had the restrictions lifted by this decision...:dunno:
 

GoodWitch58

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Anyone who believes that corporations don't ALREADY own this country and its leadership has been asleep for the past several years.

I agree. But, before the SC decision last week, they had to at least "work at" the manipulaton a little bit...now, they have been given a "blank check.":yikes:
 

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Actually some corporations had enormous power as they were given exclusive rights to certain regions. The Virginia Company, Hudson Bay Company, and British East India Company were HUGE economic and political powerhouses.

They had an elected board of directors, stockholders, lobbyists, elected representatives in their debt, you name it.

At one time the Hudson Bay company was the largest landowner in the world (1/3 of modern Canada) and was the de facto government in N. America.

The British East India Company was so powerful it basically ruled India for 100 years and had its own troops.
 

GoodWitch58

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Okay. I am not disputing that; guess I am just looking at it from a different perspective. It's not important enough to me to argue the fine points...suffice it to say, I (my opinion) think this decision is not a good one for regular Americans in today's world. and I am not sure if it was good for regular Americans or Brits, or French, or Native Americans in the world of yesterday either--just that the opportunities are different; results may turn out to be the same. there was probably a very good reason that the restrictions that were just overturned, were set up in the first place.:wave:
 
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