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James Bentwood

Beach Fanatic

There have been quite a few threads about golf carts. And I agree with you.

For the record, apparently the only reason they were allowed was because one or more county commissioners have family in the rental business.
No community would ever consider allowing golf carts on public streets, especially major arteries and highways. Note that the "street legal" label is just a smoke screen.

Unfortunately we are about to see a huge wave of scooters, 3-wheel eyesores, mini carts, and tons more tourist trap type stuff.

There have been quite a few threads about golf carts. And I agree with you. 
 
For the record, apparently the only reason they were allowed was because one or more county commissioners have family in the rental business. 
No community would ever consider allowing golf carts on public streets, especially major arteries and highways. Note that the &quot;street legal&quot; label is just a smoke screen. 
 
Unfortunately we are about to see a huge wave of scooters, 3-wheel eyesores, mini carts, and tons more tourist trap type stuff.

deborsk

Beach Lover

Today in my GBTS neighborhood a bunch of kids threw firecrackers at an owner's family member while he was walking on the street. This is totally unacceptable behavior.
If you see people on golf carts doing stupid/ dangerous stuff ie. a 9 yr old driving on 30 A or in your neighborhood, etc ..try to snap a picture,get the license number and call the sheriff's non emergency number. They can follow up with the cart rental company to get rental information and they will follow up on the complaint with a ticket, removal of golf cart , or both. I've seen it happen in our neighborhood.

Today in my GBTS neighborhood a bunch of kids threw firecrackers at an owner&#039;s family member while he was walking on the street. This is totally unacceptable behavior. 
If you see people on golf carts doing stupid/ dangerous stuff ie. a 9 yr old driving on 30 A or in your neighborhood, etc ..try to snap a picture,get the license number and call the sheriff&#039;s non emergency number. They can follow up with the cart rental company to get rental information and they will follow up on the complaint with a ticket, removal of golf cart , or both. I&#039;ve seen it happen in our neighborhood.

PoppaJ

SoWal Insider

I don’t mind LSV’s  because everyone I see is one less car on the road and that’s a plus. I have one for my neighborhood. It is equipped for the street, but I have never licensed it. I would like to see the county embrace them like Peachtree City did and help reduce road traffic.
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I don’t mind LSV’s because everyone I see is one less car on the road and that’s a plus. I have one for my neighborhood. It is equipped for the street, but I have never licensed it. I would like to see the county embrace them like Peachtree City did and help reduce road traffic. 
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outofadream

[QUOTE="Poppaj, post: 918009, member: 30199"]I don’t mind LSV’s  because everyone I see is one less car on the road and that’s a plus. I have one for my neighborhood. It is equipped for the street, but I have never licensed it. I would like to see the county embrace them like Peachtree City did and help reduce road traffic.
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The only way it can work here is if you do it like Peachtree City Georgia… 30A needs Dedicated golf cart paths...you can’t have both on the road!  If you don’t drive your golf cart on 30A you must drive your car correct? Don’t tell me that you don’t get frustrated when there are 20 cars behind a golf cart going 15 miles an hour and don’t even talk about how many underage kids are driving these carts just out there joy riding in the neighborhood and on 30A..no seatbelts overloaded disaster waiting to happen and it does happen everybody just doesn’t hear about it I’m from Georgia I have friends who live in Peachtree city cars do not drive on the path and golf carts do not drive on the roads

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Poppaj">I don’t mind LSV’s because everyone I see is one less car on the road and that’s a plus. I have one for my neighborhood. It is equipped for the street, but I have never licensed it. I would like to see the county embrace them like Peachtree City did and help reduce road traffic. 
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Angelea

Beach Comber

There's a lot of rude, obnoxious car drivers too. I've been behind plenty of folks in vehicles going under 25 mph on 30A, on vacation, enjoying the view, etc. It doesn't matter what the method of transportation is, people will be people. 

Thanks for sharing the video, PoppaJ! I'd like to see the speed limit lowered to 25 everywhere along 30A.  As the numbers of pedestrians and cyclists increase on our paths, encouraging more use of LSVs and trolley/shuttle services instead of vehicles makes sense. I'd like to see more LSV specific parking by TDC and local businesses. If you are looking for speed, just hit a connector road to 98.  For me, even as a resident, turning onto 30A is a momentary vacation...slow down, windows open, breathe in the fresh salty air.

There&#039;s a lot of rude, obnoxious car drivers too. I&#039;ve been behind plenty of folks in vehicles going under 25 mph on 30A, on vacation, enjoying the view, etc. It doesn&#039;t matter what the method of transportation is, people will be people. 
 
Thanks for sharing the video, PoppaJ! I&#039;d like to see the speed limit lowered to 25 everywhere along 30A. As the numbers of pedestrians and cyclists increase on our paths, encouraging more use of LSVs and trolley/shuttle services instead of vehicles makes sense. I&#039;d like to see more LSV specific parking by TDC and local businesses. If you are looking for speed, just hit a connector road to 98. For me, even as a resident, turning onto 30A is a momentary vacation...slow down, windows open, breathe in the fresh salty air.

[QUOTE="outofadream, post: 918016, member: 7132"]The only way it can work here is if you do it like Peachtree City Georgia… 30A needs Dedicated golf cart paths...you can’t have both on the road!  If you don’t drive your golf cart on 30A you must drive your car correct? Don’t tell me that you don’t get frustrated when there are 20 cars behind a golf cart going 15 miles an hour and don’t even talk about how many underage kids are driving these carts just out there joy riding in the neighborhood and on 30A..no seatbelts overloaded disaster waiting to happen and it does happen everybody just doesn’t hear about it I’m from Georgia I have friends who live in Peachtree city cars do not drive on the path and golf carts do not drive on the roads[/QUOTE]
Uh, that’s why I posted the video. Do something similar here.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="outofadream">The only way it can work here is if you do it like Peachtree City Georgia… 30A needs Dedicated golf cart paths...you can’t have both on the road! If you don’t drive your golf cart on 30A you must drive your car correct? Don’t tell me that you don’t get frustrated when there are 20 cars behind a golf cart going 15 miles an hour and don’t even talk about how many underage kids are driving these carts just out there joy riding in the neighborhood and on 30A..no seatbelts overloaded disaster waiting to happen and it does happen everybody just doesn’t hear about it I’m from Georgia I have friends who live in Peachtree city cars do not drive on the path and golf carts do not drive on the roads</blockquote>Uh, that’s why I posted the video. Do something similar here.

jodiFL

There is no way it would work here. Not enough real estate. Some developers/land owners could find some way to put a couple of houses on the amount of land used for the "cart roads". The bike path here abuts right up next to private property lines along 30A.

There is no way it would work here. Not enough real estate. Some developers/land owners could find some way to put a couple of houses on the amount of land used for the &quot;cart roads&quot;. The bike path here abuts right up next to private property lines along 30A.

bob bob

[QUOTE="Angelea, post: 918017, member: 26091"]There's a lot of rude, obnoxious car drivers too. I've been behind plenty of folks in vehicles going under 25 mph on 30A, on vacation, enjoying the view, etc. It doesn't matter what the method of transportation is, people will be people.

Thanks for sharing the video, PoppaJ! I'd like to see the speed limit lowered to 25 everywhere along 30A.  As the numbers of pedestrians and cyclists increase on our paths, encouraging more use of LSVs and trolley/shuttle services instead of vehicles makes sense. I'd like to see more LSV specific parking by TDC and local businesses. If you are looking for speed, just hit a connector road to 98.  For me, even as a resident, turning onto 30A is a momentary vacation...slow down, windows open, breathe in the fresh salty air.[/QUOTE]
I read your 1st graph and agreed. Being stuck behind any vehicle )and bikes) going 10-25 mph is maddening. 
But your 2nd graph contradicts. Our roads are highways not golf cart paths.
As for connector roads, many of those are used by golf carts also.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Angelea">There&#039;s a lot of rude, obnoxious car drivers too. I&#039;ve been behind plenty of folks in vehicles going under 25 mph on 30A, on vacation, enjoying the view, etc. It doesn&#039;t matter what the method of transportation is, people will be people. 
 
Thanks for sharing the video, PoppaJ! I&#039;d like to see the speed limit lowered to 25 everywhere along 30A. As the numbers of pedestrians and cyclists increase on our paths, encouraging more use of LSVs and trolley/shuttle services instead of vehicles makes sense. I&#039;d like to see more LSV specific parking by TDC and local businesses. If you are looking for speed, just hit a connector road to 98. For me, even as a resident, turning onto 30A is a momentary vacation...slow down, windows open, breathe in the fresh salty air.</blockquote>I read your 1st graph and agreed. Being stuck behind any vehicle )and bikes) going 10-25 mph is maddening. 
But your 2nd graph contradicts. Our roads are highways not golf cart paths. 
As for connector roads, many of those are used by golf carts also.

UofL

They should be limited to neighborhood roads and to any connecting neighborhoods.  Not on 30A.  Seems simple enough to me.  That's enough cruising.   Our neighborhood has golf carts.  neighborhood folks on either side, come over.  No one is ever on the 45 mph road or the 30/35 mph road except to shoot across at the street.  One of the neighborhoods has a golf course.  Our golf cart/bikes/walking in the neighborhood.  Mini Cooper for Louisville.  Van for travel and tailgating.  Ellen

They should be limited to neighborhood roads and to any connecting neighborhoods.  Not on 30A.  Seems simple enough to me.  That&#039;s enough cruising.   Our neighborhood has golf carts.  neighborhood folks on either side, come over.  No one is ever on the 45 mph road or the 30/35 mph road except to shoot across at the street.  One of the neighborhoods has a golf course.  Our golf cart/bikes/walking in the neighborhood.  Mini Cooper for Louisville.  Van for travel and tailgating.  Ellen

[QUOTE="Angelea, post: 918017, member: 26091"]There's a lot of rude, obnoxious car drivers too. I've been behind plenty of folks in vehicles going under 25 mph on 30A, on vacation, enjoying the view, etc. It doesn't matter what the method of transportation is, people will be people.

Thanks for sharing the video, PoppaJ! I'd like to see the speed limit lowered to 25 everywhere along 30A.  As the numbers of pedestrians and cyclists increase on our paths, encouraging more use of LSVs and trolley/shuttle services instead of vehicles makes sense. I'd like to see more LSV specific parking by TDC and local businesses. If you are looking for speed, just hit a connector road to 98.  For me, even as a resident, turning onto 30A is a momentary vacation...slow down, windows open, breathe in the fresh salty air.[/QUOTE]
I would bet you own a golf cart and drive it on 30A..technically it’s illegal because 30A is a county highway..I do agree with you about the gawkers on 30A who go 10 miles an hour and the Weeknd bicyclers.  They fit in the same category as golf carts..all of this going on on a two-lane highway with a gazillion vehicles: cars, bicycles, golf carts you can’t have it all people. 30A needs to have either golf carts or cars and a real functioning multiple stop transit system . The TDC needs to stop spending bed tax money on marketing to gazillions of tourists and kick in some of it to fund public transportation

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Angelea">There&#039;s a lot of rude, obnoxious car drivers too. I&#039;ve been behind plenty of folks in vehicles going under 25 mph on 30A, on vacation, enjoying the view, etc. It doesn&#039;t matter what the method of transportation is, people will be people. 
 
Thanks for sharing the video, PoppaJ! I&#039;d like to see the speed limit lowered to 25 everywhere along 30A. As the numbers of pedestrians and cyclists increase on our paths, encouraging more use of LSVs and trolley/shuttle services instead of vehicles makes sense. I&#039;d like to see more LSV specific parking by TDC and local businesses. If you are looking for speed, just hit a connector road to 98. For me, even as a resident, turning onto 30A is a momentary vacation...slow down, windows open, breathe in the fresh salty air.</blockquote>I would bet you own a golf cart and drive it on 30A..technically it’s illegal because 30A is a county highway..I do agree with you about the gawkers on 30A who go 10 miles an hour and the Weeknd bicyclers. They fit in the same category as golf carts..all of this going on on a two-lane highway with a gazillion vehicles: cars, bicycles, golf carts you can’t have it all people. 30A needs to have either golf carts or cars and a real functioning multiple stop transit system . The TDC needs to stop spending bed tax money on marketing to gazillions of tourists and kick in some of it to fund public transportation

Florida laws are very specific about golf carts/LSVs. Enforcement is the problem. I personally think the speed limit on 30A was lowered to accommodate them.

bob1

[QUOTE="jodiFL, post: 918032, member: 5343"]Florida laws are very specific about golf carts/LSVs. Enforcement is the problem. I personally think the speed limit on 30A was lowered to accommodate them.[/QUOTE]
Yes the speed limit has been systematically lowered all over SoWal for golf carts (LSVs are golf carts with a few safety features). As I recall LSVs have to be able to achieve 25mph. Some do but I've never seen one go over that. Most can barely get up a slight slope better then 15mph,especially when low on battery. The fact is that most golf carts in SoWal travel at 15mph at best.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="jodiFL">Florida laws are very specific about golf carts/LSVs. Enforcement is the problem. I personally think the speed limit on 30A was lowered to accommodate them.</blockquote>Yes the speed limit has been systematically lowered all over SoWal for golf carts (LSVs are golf carts with a few safety features). As I recall LSVs have to be able to achieve 25mph. Some do but I&#039;ve never seen one go over that. Most can barely get up a slight slope better then 15mph,especially when low on battery. The fact is that most golf carts in SoWal travel at 15mph at best.

[QUOTE="jodiFL, post: 918032, member: 5343"]Florida laws are very specific about golf carts/LSVs. Enforcement is the problem. I personally think the speed limit on 30A was lowered to accommodate them.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree with you Jodi ENFORCEMENT is nonexistent..yes the speed limit was lowered to accommodate the nuisance of golf carts. Maybe someone should start posting a few photos on this site of the bad behavior and disregard for Florida laws of the road that’s taking place on golf carts… Many drivers are driving these carts carrying numbers of children while they and other passengers are holding alcoholic open containers. Some or none are wearing seatbelts You are in deep trouble if stopped while driving a car if breaking these laws!

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="jodiFL">Florida laws are very specific about golf carts/LSVs. Enforcement is the problem. I personally think the speed limit on 30A was lowered to accommodate them.</blockquote>I totally agree with you Jodi ENFORCEMENT is nonexistent..yes the speed limit was lowered to accommodate the nuisance of golf carts. Maybe someone should start posting a few photos on this site of the bad behavior and disregard for Florida laws of the road that’s taking place on golf carts… Many drivers are driving these carts carrying numbers of children while they and other passengers are holding alcoholic open containers. Some or none are wearing seatbelts You are in deep trouble if stopped while driving a car if breaking these laws!

Will B

Moderator

[QUOTE="outofadream, post: 918031, member: 7132"]I would bet you own a golf cart and drive it on 30A..technically it’s illegal because 30A is a county highway..I do agree with you about the gawkers on 30A who go 10 miles an hour and the Weeknd bicyclers.  They fit in the same category as golf carts..all of this going on on a two-lane highway with a gazillion vehicles: cars, bicycles, golf carts you can’t have it all people. 30A needs to have either golf carts or cars and a real functioning multiple stop transit system . The TDC needs to stop spending bed tax money on marketing to gazillions of tourists and kick in some of it to fund public transportation[/QUOTE]

FDOT's 30A designation is a state road.  It's not a highway.  There are one or two sections that share roadway with 98 that do fall into highway status but not along the coast.

I do, however, share all your frustrations...

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="outofadream">I would bet you own a golf cart and drive it on 30A..technically it’s illegal because 30A is a county highway..I do agree with you about the gawkers on 30A who go 10 miles an hour and the Weeknd bicyclers. They fit in the same category as golf carts..all of this going on on a two-lane highway with a gazillion vehicles: cars, bicycles, golf carts you can’t have it all people. 30A needs to have either golf carts or cars and a real functioning multiple stop transit system . The TDC needs to stop spending bed tax money on marketing to gazillions of tourists and kick in some of it to fund public transportation</blockquote> 
FDOT&#039;s 30A designation is a state road. It&#039;s not a highway. There are one or two sections that share roadway with 98 that do fall into highway status but not along the coast. 
 
I do, however, share all your frustrations...

[QUOTE="outofadream, post: 918031, member: 7132"]I would bet you own a golf cart and drive it on 30A..technically it’s illegal because 30A is a county highway..I do agree with you about the gawkers on 30A who go 10 miles an hour and the Weeknd bicyclers.  They fit in the same category as golf carts..all of this going on on a two-lane highway with a gazillion vehicles: cars, bicycles, golf carts you can’t have it all people. 30A needs to have either golf carts or cars and a real functioning multiple stop transit system . The TDC needs to stop spending bed tax money on marketing to gazillions of tourists and kick in some of it to fund public transportation[/QUOTE]

Nope.  I do not own a golf cart or an LSV. 

And please note that LSVs are allowed on 30A.  Non-street legal golf cars are not.  Of course, we all know that there's an enforcement issue. Agreed that it's time for focus to shift to public transportation solutions instead of adding more beach accesses.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="outofadream">I would bet you own a golf cart and drive it on 30A..technically it’s illegal because 30A is a county highway..I do agree with you about the gawkers on 30A who go 10 miles an hour and the Weeknd bicyclers. They fit in the same category as golf carts..all of this going on on a two-lane highway with a gazillion vehicles: cars, bicycles, golf carts you can’t have it all people. 30A needs to have either golf carts or cars and a real functioning multiple stop transit system . The TDC needs to stop spending bed tax money on marketing to gazillions of tourists and kick in some of it to fund public transportation</blockquote> 
Nope. I do not own a golf cart or an LSV. 
 
And please note that LSVs are allowed on 30A. Non-street legal golf cars are not. Of course, we all know that there&#039;s an enforcement issue. Agreed that it&#039;s time for focus to shift to public transportation solutions instead of adding more beach accesses.

VPBATMAN

Beach Crab

Its obvious the parents of these kids are to blame.
We have lost a privilege because visiting entitled families don't think the rules apply to them.

Its obvious the parents of these kids are to blame. 
We have lost a privilege because visiting entitled families don&#039;t think the rules apply to them.

[QUOTE="VPBATMAN, post: 940157, member: 41464"]
Its obvious the parents of these kids are to blame.
We have lost a privilege because visiting entitled families don't think the rules apply to them.
[/QUOTE]
What privilege was lost?

I'd say the morons who allowed golf carts on public road are to blame. Roads are for cars, not toys.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="VPBATMAN">Its obvious the parents of these kids are to blame. 
We have lost a privilege because visiting entitled families don&#039;t think the rules apply to them.</blockquote>What privilege was lost? 
 
I&#039;d say the morons who allowed golf carts on public road are to blame. Roads are for cars, not toys.

Matt J

SWGB

[QUOTE="bob1, post: 940164, member: 16511"]
What privilege was lost?

I'd say the morons who allowed golf carts on public road are to blame. Roads are for cars, not toys.
[/QUOTE]

That'd be the Florida legislature. I agree they are primarily idiots.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="bob1">What privilege was lost? 
 
I&#039;d say the morons who allowed golf carts on public road are to blame. Roads are for cars, not toys.</blockquote> 
That&#039;d be the Florida legislature. I agree they are primarily idiots.

30A Skunkape

Skunky

30ASRBeachBum

Holy crap these things are a HUGE nuisance. If you find yourself in a LONG train of cars moving 18 mph in a 35 zone you and be 100% certain there is an overloaded golf cart leading the parade. Very often, there is a clearly underage driver at the wheel. Is it the policy of the county is simply not care? I kind of understand golf carts being legal in 20 mph zones, but in the stretches that are 35 mph they are at best a horrible nuisance, at worst damn dangerous.

I don't get it. Tourist drives their car to the beach, parks it, then rents another car (cart). Then tosses the keys to their kid and tells them to have fun. Amazing stupidity.

Holy crap these things are a HUGE nuisance. If you find yourself in a LONG train of cars moving 18 mph in a 35 zone you and be 100% certain there is an overloaded golf cart leading the parade. Very often, there is a clearly underage driver at the wheel. Is it the policy of the county is simply not care? I kind of understand golf carts being legal in 20 mph zones, but in the stretches that are 35 mph they are at best a horrible nuisance, at worst damn dangerous. 
 
I don&#039;t get it. Tourist drives their car to the beach, parks it, then rents another car (cart). Then tosses the keys to their kid and tells them to have fun. Amazing stupidity.

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