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mputnal

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What am I missing ? What hatred and true evil ? I'm a independent and always have been. i've voted both sides. I agree we need to get a handle on the division . I don't see the Republican party loss of human morality . They are fighting for people to come to our country LEGALLY . They are fighting against out of control crime. They are fighting for the out of control spending by the Dems.
Capitalist actually want cheap labor. I see it right here in Walton County but it is everywhere. Heck I am a capitalist. I imagine you are too. The whole immigration/border problem is something that needs to be solved but it has been politicized by the republican party. There is no common sense in building a wall because they will keep coming. That wall is just eye candy for a political party that has lost common sense and good judgement.
 

Dennyk

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I think the Biden administration is on the right track but there is one thing that will derail the American people. Anger. Hatred. Lack of real conversation. Placing too much blame on any one person. I do blame trump for our division but he was not to blame for Covid. Trump said things that are not right. Biden says things that are not right. Only our anger and hatred for each other will prevent us from finding the truth...

I ask you to research Joe Biden's back ground. He overcame so many obstacles like speech (stuttering). Then compare it to trump's background. Old Joe or sleepy joe became our President only because he ran against a dictator. He may have lost to anyone other than a dictator.
I will look into Joe's past. I wish he would stand up to the Left and do what he thinks is right. He is being a puppet to the left agenda. I would call Trump a buisness man not a dictator. He got our county on the right track. Yes he could have been nicer and less tweets. But he was all about American people and our military. I wish we could find a middle of the road type to help us out of this mess we are in now.
 

mputnal

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If we only listen to one source of news we will become biased, upset and angry. Listen to the news but when it starts making you angry change the channel. There is common ground on most all issues even abortion. That common ground was just broken by a Supreme Court that is biased by a conservative majority. I say listen to our sense of what is right and wrong. I say try not to be a hypocrite. I do not want our government telling me that they know what is best for my body. I have my own senses to do that. Take out the religious context because those words in the bible are not all from God himself. Men wrote that work of art but men are flawed as all humans are flawed.
 

Dennyk

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Nov 13, 2017
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Capitalist actually want cheap labor. I see it right here in Walton County but it is everywhere. Heck I am a capitalist. I imagine you are too. The whole immigration/border problem is something that needs to be solved but it has been politicized by the republican party. There is no common sense in building a wall because they will keep coming. That wall is just eye candy for a political party that has lost common sense and good judgement.
I've never thought of myself as a Capitalist. But it does fit a lot of what I believe in. The wall is a big question with me. All the boarder workers seem to think it helps them do their job. We just have to say the boarder is closed and stop inviting these people to come. They get more benefits than our Vets or homeless. It's a big mess we are in and we all need to get together and fix it.
 

mputnal

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Nov 10, 2009
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I will look into Joe's past. I wish he would stand up to the Left and do what he thinks is right. He is being a puppet to the left agenda. I would call Trump a buisness man not a dictator. He got our county on the right track. Yes he could have been nicer and less tweets. But he was all about American people and our military. I wish we could find a middle of the road type to help us out of this mess we are in now.
Well the hope is in you and I and all of us to find common ground and use our common sense. Not all business men are good for policy making in a complex society. Trump used the system. Just look at how he manipulated the bankruptcy laws. I do not know Trump or Biden personally. All I have to go on is their history. Neither are perfect because they are human beings but one of them is less perfect than the other and that is how we vote...
 

Dennyk

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Nov 13, 2017
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If we only listen to one source of news we will become biased, upset and angry. Listen to the news but when it starts making you angry change the channel. There is common ground on most all issues even abortion. That common ground was just broken by a Supreme Court that is biased by a conservative majority. I say listen to our sense of what is right and wrong. I say try not to be a hypocrite. I do not want our government telling me that they know what is best for my body. I have my own senses to do that. Take out the religious context because those words in the bible are not all from God himself. Men wrote that work of art but men are flawed as all humans are flawed.
i agree with the not letting the government tell me what to do with my body. They can't have it both ways. it is a bit confusing to say one thing about abortion , but then they say you have to get a vaccine in your body to be in the military or go to work. The supreme court just put abortion back to the state to vote.
 

mputnal

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Nov 10, 2009
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I've never thought of myself as a Capitalist. But it does fit a lot of what I believe in. The wall is a big question with me. All the boarder workers seem to think it helps them do their job. We just have to say the boarder is closed and stop inviting these people to come. They get more benefits than our Vets or homeless. It's a big mess we are in and we all need to get together and fix it.
What is amazing to me is that there are solutions to immigration. We need people willing to work jobs we Americans do not want. I wish Americans would do these jobs but they don't. If it is a family of workers who want to come in to this country then fine with me but they have to pay the same taxes that I pay. If it is a criminal that wants to come into this country then not fine with me. The only reason we can not solve these problems is political division. It's crazy that we let politics do this to us.
 

Dennyk

Beach Fanatic
Nov 13, 2017
298
254
Seagrove
Well the hope is in you and I and all of us to find common ground and use our common sense. Not all business men are good for policy making in a complex society. Trump used the system. Just look at how he manipulated the bankruptcy laws. I do not know Trump or Biden personally. All I have to go on is their history. Neither are perfect because they are human beings but one of them is less perfect than the other and that is how we vote...
yes we have common ground, we both want our country to do better. Yes Trump used the bankruptcy laws . He didn't write those laws. Sadly these are legal laws on the books that all people use everyday. We need to get rid of them for once and all. Too many people use these everyday.
 

mputnal

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Nov 10, 2009
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i agree with the not letting the government tell me what to do with my body. They can't have it both ways. it is a bit confusing to say one thing about abortion , but then they say you have to get a vaccine in your body to be in the military or go to work. The supreme court just put abortion back to the state to vote.
Then let us vote. I do not want the power in charge telling me what to do with my body. Vaccines are not mandatory and so you have to make a choice and use good judgement. Hopefully you will make that choice with science based facts but if you don't then that is between you and your judgement. Power is telling women they do not have a choice which is called oppression.
 

mputnal

Beach Fanatic
Nov 10, 2009
2,395
1,814
yes we have common ground, we both want our country to do better. Yes Trump used the bankruptcy laws . He didn't write those laws. Sadly these are legal laws on the books that all people use everyday. We need to get rid of them for once and all. Too many people use these everyday.
No he did not right the laws but because of his wealth and influence he affected those laws being written.
 
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