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Lou Deman

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Yes trump is just a man. I think we can agree that he is not a good man. I think we can agree that he is an outsider rich man. I think we can agree that we need to reform term limits for politicians. I think we can agree on immigration. I think we can agree that we need to reform the tax structure. We can agree on a lot but for the stupid sh.t. I am not on the left or right so try and find another word if you think you know me and my politics.
Mputnal
When I say you I do not mean Mputnal. I have no idea who any of you guys are. When I say left I mean people that think from a place on the far left. I have no problem with the majority on either side from the middle because they are still open to conversation and thought.

I agree with points number:
1 2 4 5 6

3 I don't think Trump is nearly as rich as he portrays
 

mputnal

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There will always be extremes in ideologies. I am not one of those people but you are making a good case for being one of those people. I do not think you are but you need to read and listen to what you are posting. Ignore the stuff that causes you to react negatively. Trust me I have learned that is peace :)
 

Lou Deman

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Well we are all human so I look at that as something in common. You keep trying to put me in some category of people who you are bound and determined to disagree with and hate. I think that is not a good way to have a meaningful conversation. I have learned in my old age that when people try to insult me they are really insulting themselves and that is totally within your control to react or ignore.
First I do not hate anyone, we have a cat that bites me everyday, I don't hate the cat she is like that because of how some man treated her when she was young (she doesn't bite the women in the house). I don't like they way some of you guys view stuff but hate is a cancer that I won't let in. I have hated in my life and no good comes from it. I pretty much agree with the rest of what you stated. Once again I do not mean to lump you in where you shouldn't be
 

mputnal

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Yes I have also learned the hard way about hatred. I think it can lead to evil and that my friend is something we do have to fight.
 

mputnal

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How? Do you HONESTLY think Pence could have overturned the election, HONESTLY. Not what you have been told that Trump people think, you yourself, do you think Pence could have said 'Nope Trump wins'
Yes I believe it was an important step for trump to force Pence to not certify the election results.
 

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PoppaJ

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The left wants Jan 6th to be more then it actually was. Being from that area I know a ton of people that were at the capital on Jan 6th, not one of them saw anything more then some pushing with police to get through make shift barriers, they went into a building that we all own so their presence could be felt by those that they feel weren't listening. Some idiots got out of control but that is always the case where there are a lot of people and emotions were running high, just like people on your side. The left cannot highlight its policies or accomplishments so they have to keep the coals on this stoked to drum up fear from likeminded people. The horse is dead, there was no avenue at all to overturn an election or overturn the government, you sound stupid, stop speaking when you know what you are saying isn't true.
Republicans sure thought they could. Explain away the fake electors.
Enough BS, name me 1 even remote path that could have been used to overturn the election. Just one and I don't care if it involves a yeti riding a unicorn. This theory the left constantly preaches doesn't make sense.
I’ll name THE path.

The riot was a distraction to allow trump to declare martial law. Pence was going to be removed and replaced by Grassley to oversee the certification which was going to be sent back to the states for the fake electors to decide.

Chuck Grassley Tue Jan 5:

Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said he would preside over the U.S. Senate debate surrounding disputes of the 2020 election results if Vice President Mike Pence does not show up.

“Well, first of all, I will be — if the Vice President isn’t there and we don’t expect him to be there, I will be presiding over the Senate.”

Grassley told reporters on Tuesday that any challenges to the election results are a “legitimate” move that Republicans are allowed to conduct.

“First of all, it’s a legal process under the law and under the Constitution, for these folks to do what they’re doing.”

SS directed Pence to get in a car after the breach and he refused believing he would be removed from the Capitol and not be able to fulfill his duties to certify the election.

Once sent back to the states the fake electors would falsely declare trump the winner in their respective state.


Again, the rioters were dumbass rubes being used and now going to prison for their stupidity.
 

PoppaJ

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Bring it on mofo. With you we’ve already seen problems the likes of which we have never seen before.
It’s time to call your bluff and put this sad chapter in our history to rest.

"I think, if it happened, you'd have problems in this country the likes of which, perhaps, you have ever seen before. I don't think the people of the United States would stand for it."

trump - today
 
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