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bob1

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Just for your information, one of our county commissioners was on Facebook declaring how unconstitutional our recent elections were, etc. etc. Most of the comments about his post were "sometimes violence is necessary". I sure wish maybe they would stop with the incendiary rhetoric, and start working on getting enough vaccine to help us fight the pandemic. There is exactly one ICU bed available in all of Walton County right now.
They're all around you.
 

Matt J

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Just for your information, one of our county commissioners was on Facebook declaring how unconstitutional our recent elections were, etc. etc. Most of the comments about his post were "sometimes violence is necessary". I sure wish maybe they would stop with the incendiary rhetoric, and start working on getting enough vaccine to help us fight the pandemic. There is exactly one ICU bed available in all of Walton County right now.

Danny? He's lost my faith, support and vote. He's dangerous and I hope someone more qualified runs against him.
 

PoppaJ

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Lindsey Graham is so angry with trump he says he will use only one hand and no lube at their weekly run-n-tug session.
 
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Just for your information, one of our county commissioners was on Facebook declaring how unconstitutional our recent elections were, etc. etc. Most of the comments about his post were "sometimes violence is necessary". I sure wish maybe they would stop with the incendiary rhetoric, and start working on getting enough vaccine to help us fight the pandemic. There is exactly one ICU bed available in all of Walton County right now.
If he posted publicly instead of on his own personal page I would tell him GFY,
 

PoppaJ

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I posted his statement below




“In October 2016 I publicly voiced my opposition to Donald Trump in the NY Times saying ‘At some point, you have to look in the mirror and recognize that you cannot possibly justify support for Trump to your children…’

“I need to say the same about Missouri’s U.S. Sen. Josh Hawley, who has shown his true colors as an anti-democracy populist by supporting Trump’s false claim of a ‘stolen election.’ Hawley’s irresponsible, inflammatory, and dangerous tactics have incited violence and further discord across America. And he has now revealed himself as a political opportunist willing to subvert the Constitution and the ideals of the nation he swore to uphold.

“Hawley should be censured by his Senate colleagues for his actions which have undermined a peaceful transition of power and for provoking yesterday’s riots in our nation’s capital. We owe it to our children and grandchildren to protect our country and its Constitutional underpinnings.”
 

PoppaJ

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As a German, I say this: Do not repeat Germany's De-Nazification mistakes.
Once the Third Reich fell, magically all the Nazis in Germany disappeared. The big ones were put to trial, but all the little ones disappeared.

The law-bending Nazi-judges of the Third Reich magically stopped being Nazis.
The bootlicking NSDAP-members in every town-hall and administration magically stopped being fans of Hitler.
SS-soldiers magically became good people over night.

Germany as a whole simply decided to forget that the 12 years of Hitler's rule had ever happened.
Germany as a whole simply decided to forget that there were people in their midst who had commited horrible atrocities.

Then came the 1960s. A new generation, with fresh eyes, and they were horrified by how closely post-WWII Germany resembled the Third Reich.
The shameless support for the war in Vietnam and for murderous tyrants like the Shah of Iran.
The same shameless over-the-top propaganda, except this time it was driven by sensationalist media like the "Bild"-newspaper.
The same police-brutality, with some police-officers even being former SS-members.
The same Nazi-judges meting out harsh sentences against left-wing protesters like they did during the Third Reich.
The same societal retreat into conservatism that declared new ideas to be bad.

What followed was a cultural backlash from the left that was especially bad in 1968. A radicalization of the left that even birthed bona-fide domestic left-wing terrorists. The political climate became bad in Germany. Really, really bad. Because the majority of Germans prefered to forget, prefered to pretend that these young people didn't have a point when calling out all these similarities with Nazi-Germany.

The beginning of the end of the crisis came with Chancellor Willy Brandt, a social-democrat, admitting in a landmark-speech that these left-wing protesters had a point. In the following years he step by step defused the situation, by making political reforms that made Germany more liberal, thus showing to the radical left that there is a point in non-violent political activism.

The US must NOT EVER forget what Trump and his supporters have done.

The US must NOT EVER move on.

The US must NOT EVER in any way think that this was normal.

You don't heal a country by forgetting. You heal a country by facing the problem and talking about it every single day.

If you pretend that this crisis, this hatred, ended with Trump leaving office, if you decide to forget, then this hatred will fester and be reborn in a few decades.

Maybe it will return as right-wing violence. Maybe it will return as left-wing violence.

Please mark my words: If US-society decides to forgive and forget, if it decides to move on and to go back to business as usual, if it doesn't deal thoroughly with this hatred, with this divide and its perpetrators, then there will be dark consequences down the road.


https://democraticunderground.com/100214846050
 

bob1

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Jun 26, 2010
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As a German, I say this: Do not repeat Germany's De-Nazification mistakes.
Once the Third Reich fell, magically all the Nazis in Germany disappeared. The big ones were put to trial, but all the little ones disappeared.

The law-bending Nazi-judges of the Third Reich magically stopped being Nazis.
The bootlicking NSDAP-members in every town-hall and administration magically stopped being fans of Hitler.
SS-soldiers magically became good people over night.

Germany as a whole simply decided to forget that the 12 years of Hitler's rule had ever happened.
Germany as a whole simply decided to forget that there were people in their midst who had commited horrible atrocities.

Then came the 1960s. A new generation, with fresh eyes, and they were horrified by how closely post-WWII Germany resembled the Third Reich.
The shameless support for the war in Vietnam and for murderous tyrants like the Shah of Iran.
The same shameless over-the-top propaganda, except this time it was driven by sensationalist media like the "Bild"-newspaper.
The same police-brutality, with some police-officers even being former SS-members.
The same Nazi-judges meting out harsh sentences against left-wing protesters like they did during the Third Reich.
The same societal retreat into conservatism that declared new ideas to be bad.

What followed was a cultural backlash from the left that was especially bad in 1968. A radicalization of the left that even birthed bona-fide domestic left-wing terrorists. The political climate became bad in Germany. Really, really bad. Because the majority of Germans prefered to forget, prefered to pretend that these young people didn't have a point when calling out all these similarities with Nazi-Germany.

The beginning of the end of the crisis came with Chancellor Willy Brandt, a social-democrat, admitting in a landmark-speech that these left-wing protesters had a point. In the following years he step by step defused the situation, by making political reforms that made Germany more liberal, thus showing to the radical left that there is a point in non-violent political activism.

The US must NOT EVER forget what Trump and his supporters have done.

The US must NOT EVER move on.

The US must NOT EVER in any way think that this was normal.

You don't heal a country by forgetting. You heal a country by facing the problem and talking about it every single day.

If you pretend that this crisis, this hatred, ended with Trump leaving office, if you decide to forget, then this hatred will fester and be reborn in a few decades.

Maybe it will return as right-wing violence. Maybe it will return as left-wing violence.

Please mark my words: If US-society decides to forgive and forget, if it decides to move on and to go back to business as usual, if it doesn't deal thoroughly with this hatred, with this divide and its perpetrators, then there will be dark consequences down the road.


https://democraticunderground.com/100214846050
This piece doesn't live in the current world of internet and right wing media. The Trump machine won't let the radicals rest. Too much profit to let them go back to normal life.
 
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