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mputnal

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I can see coming on here to have an intellectual conversation was a mistake, best of luck, not worth my time.

I believe that you have a right to support anyone that your brain and conscience can agree on which is very hard to do when there is so much misinformation. So in my humble opinion I prefer you to give Joe Biden a chance instead of a demand requirement to denounce Donald Trump. If you can withstand these democrat loyalist who have gone too far in their ridicule and disrespectful behaviors I am pretty sure that eventually you will find that Joe Biden and the moderate democratic party is our hope for a Better America. Donald Trump has not just abused our democratic process but he has hurt our country in a way that we may not recover unless people like you can let Donald Trump go and accept and trust Joe Biden's Presidency. If you only watch one news channel then you will never have full and truthful information so the first step in protecting our democracy is learning how to filter information coming from partisan politic sources. Poppaj and others in this forum do not represent the methods of democracy that I represent. I do agree with their frustration of Donald Trump and now the GOP but I see no good reason to attack you for not having character or intelligence. I see an opportunity to connect with you and learn from you and hopefully you will learn from me. If we can navigate all the misinformation and communicate with respect we will both move toward the center of political and social ideology because in my opinion is where we become a UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Our country, our democracy and our future will reflect whether or not people like you and I are able to come together for a bigger purpose than the misinformation coming from extremism. All through history their have been civil wars when extremism wins out over centrism. The media has become too extreme so one source of media all the time and all day long is going to hurt our chances at continuing not only our democracy but our civil behaviors. Political ads are damaging to our democracy because they are full of misinformation if not complete mistruths. We will have to turn off the TV and learn how to hold our representatives accountable. It is difficult to find information but we do have people with very bad character running for an office that is supposed to represent you and me. Many don't represent you and me. Many represent only those with money and power while lying to our faces about how they are going to help you and me. It is important for us to have accurate and truthful information. Don't listen to their mouths. Listen to your conscience. Search for the truth. Don't depend on words. Look for their actions. Make sure your brain and conscience are in agreement before you vote...
 

Matt J

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Mocking handicapped people is not character
Let me know the contect of who you think he cheated and I will answer that question
Personal digs make you seem petty and smallminded

I like Trump as a president I didn't say I would have him over for dinner
If you would like to know more just ask a question and I'll answer it to the best of my ability
If you get personal I'll tell you to go f*ck yourself (as I would expect you to do to me)
Americans need to come together under whomever is president, personal attacks will not heal our divide
Just my opinion

Troll elsewhere you're not worth my time.
 

Bob Wells

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Seems the President might be upset with the Vice President. The President might ought to chill on who he picks on. Say the President wants and pardon and has to resign to get it because he can't do it himself. So he has pissed off the guy who would be President if he was to resign and that guy said, eh, Nope and doesn't sign that little pardon waiting for him on the desk. With that said, as far as any Citizen of the United States, I believe in innocent until proven otherwise. Just a thought I have been pondering.
 

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Bob Wells

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Pence Should Remove Trump From Office on Sunday.

Pence Should Remove Trump From Office on Sunday
Personally, I hope this does not occur. If you think of potential issue that could arise from armed insurrection to martial law. I realize all this is still a possibility with the President in office I think the difference would be the why it would be averted. I believe those leaders of the military could, should and would blunt any order that might create an issue for them. I believe at that point calmer heads would prevail in government that would take some control without removing him. Yes he will be on a Twitter rant but those who may have voted for him but aren't the followers that some are, they will recognize that it is time. Of course this is just my personal opinion.
 

mputnal

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Yeah I agree. It would cause civil unrest and protests with possible violence. I say just change the locks while he is here in Florida :)
 

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Over all Average Approval Rates of American Presidents (Gallup Poll)

FDR 63
Truman 45.4
Eisenhower 65
Kennedy 70.1
Johnson 53.1
Ford 47.2
Carter 45.5
Reagan 52.8
G.H.W. Bush 50.9
Clinton 55.1
G.W. Bush 49.1
Obama 47.9
Trump 41
 
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