Who is, this man??? Why does he want to save, my country?

[30abob]

Both Dune-ahh and Ckhagan make great arguments, but I still don't agree that returning certain decisions back to the states is a good thing. I envision a nation where certain states would have elected officials that were so extremely conservative or liberal that they would alienate many of their own residents with their decisions...

I'm not picking a fight, but... have you taken a real hard look at what's going on right now? Would all the people who feel "alienated" please raise their hand... wait, wait, wait,... I'm still counting!

 

[Jdarg]

I'm not picking a fight, but... have you taken a real hard look at what's going on right now? Would all the people who feel "alienated" please raise their hand... wait, wait, wait,... I'm still counting!

Yes Bob, I have taken a real hard look. Yeah, it isn't always pretty, but it could be worse. Fortunately, there are elected officials in other states that might balance out my elected officials that don't share my views. If many decisions went back to state level, and I didn't agree with my state and its political climate, making decisions, would I need to move? Call me screwed.


SJ, I think you see the "designer state" scenario that scares me.

 

[Smiling JOe]

SJ, I think you see the "designer state" scenario that scares me.

Yes, but I think it might be exaggerated a bit. The voters still are the ones who put people into the decision making roles, and the Fed Gov't will still tie grant money and road funding dollars onto the carrots dangling over the State's heads, so in reality, I don't think much would change other than some things which don't directly affect the public at large, such as gay marriage issues and legalized pot smoking in one's own home, which most pot smokers already do anyway.

 

[Jdarg]

I think there should be a Meetup for people like me that just don't get the Ron Paul revolution. What does one do at a Meetup? I may be too old for Meeting Up.

 

[Smiling JOe]

I think there should be a Meetup for people like me that just don't get the Ron Paul revolution. What does one do at a Meetup? I may be too old for Meeting Up.

Hah! never to old for a meeting, as long as it last no longer than one hour. The mind can only absorb what the seat can endure. In regards to a revolution, do not literally sign up or the gov't will know exactly who to kill. ;-) Never been to a meetup. I prefer to hear opposing views, rather than hearing the same shpeel that I could read from a website or see in a youtube video. But by all means, feel free to meet up.

 

[User 3]

How is he going to lower barriers to healthcare?

The federal government decided long ago that it knew how to manage your health care better than you and replaced personal responsibility and accountability with a system that puts corporate interests first. Our free market health care system that was once the envy of the world became a federally-managed disaster.


Few people realize that Congress forced Health Maintenance Organizations (HMOs) on us. HMOs rose to prominence through federal legislation, incentives, and coercion.


Now, the Food and Drug Administration's bias toward large pharmaceutical companies enlarges their power, limits treatment options, and drives consumers to seek Canadian medicines. Regulations from D.C. make it virtually impossible for small business owners to cover their employees. The unemployed often cannot afford insurance, meaning those who need basic medical attention overcrowd emergency rooms and drive up premiums.


The federal government will not suddenly become efficient managers if universal health care is instituted. Government health care only means long waiting periods, lack of choice, poor quality, and frustration. Many Canadians, fed up with socialized medicine, come to the U.S. in order to obtain care. Socialized medicine will not magically work here.


Health care should not be left up to HMOs, big drug companies, and government bureaucrats.


It is time to take back our health care. This is why he supports:

• Making all medical expenses tax deductible.
• Eliminating federal regulations that discourage small businesses from providing coverage.
• Giving doctors the freedom to collectively negotiate with insurance companies and drive down the cost of medical care.
• Making every American eligible for a Health Savings Account (HSA), and removing the requirement that individuals must obtain a high-deductible insurance policy before opening an HSA.
• Reform licensure requirements so that pharmacists and nurses can perform some basic functions to increase access to care and lower costs.

By removing federal regulations, encouraging competition, and presenting real choices, we can make our health care system the envy of the world once again.

 

[Miss Kitty]

Hah! never to old for a meeting, as long as it last no longer than one hour. The mind can only absorb what the seat can endure. In regards to a revolution, do not literally sign up or the gov't will know exactly who to kill. ;-) Never been to a meetup. I prefer to hear opposing views, rather than hearing the same shpeel that I could read from a website or see in a youtube video. But by all means, feel free to meet up.

And never give money to a political party, unless it is done with a money order.

 

[Kayak Fish]

If Ron Paul is so interested in personal liberty, why is he so anti- reproductive choice? Limiting a woman's reproductive freedoms is about as intrusive and anti-liberty as it gets.

Ron Paul approaches the abortion issue in a way consistent with his libertarian views. On one hand you have the personal freedom of the woman, but on the other you have the personal freedom of the unborn child. It's not ideologically inconsistent for him to say he feels the issue should be left up to the states. He's delivered a lot of babies in his time and I feel this makes him personally against abortion the way it is normally used.

 

[wrobert]

Okay here is a question for the RP supporters. If RP does not win the Republican nomination, will you then continue to be involved by selecting a candidate that most closely has the same ideas and thoughts as RP, or will you drop out of the political process and not do anything to affect change?

I did find a SoWal meetup, being held in south Okaloosa. Sort of defeats the purpose if you ask me. Like when the Walton County Chamber has a lunch in Okaloosa County.

 

[30abob]

Yes Bob, I have taken a real hard look. Yeah, it isn't always pretty, but it could be worse. Fortunately, there are elected officials in other states that might balance out my elected officials that don't share my views. If many decisions went back to state level, and I didn't agree with my state and its political climate, making decisions, would I need to move? Call me screwed.


SJ, I think you see the "designer state" scenario that scares me.

Ok, "Screwed":

I agree it could be worse... I think I see "worse" coming with any of the three front runners' in either party.:shock: BUT, I refuse to be afraid of FREEDOM, it was for FREEDOM that so many before us sacrificed so much. The sacrifice's that we have made of late unknowingly are what bother me the most; giving up our Liberties and calling it "Security" and being afraid to get to know our neighbors next door or two streets over because "they're different".

It really boils down to our expectations of government. What do you want the government to do FOR you. I want as little as possible as a stereotypical Libertarian.