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Minnie

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Dec 30, 2006
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To answer the original question; how else are we, as tax payers, going to subsidize the fastest tram to and from Disney World and their cruise ships?

Over the years I've seen the HSR flounder for years and then when passed promptly get repealed do to the perceived high cost of land. I've always wondered why, like the northeast, we don't simple use the median on the interstates for these trains?

Disney sails out of Port Canaveral so not sure rapid transit from Tampa would affect that.
 

GoodWitch58

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Oct 10, 2005
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I think the high-speed rail between Tampa and Orlando makes a helluvalot more sense than an airport in the middle of a swampy pine forest...but that's just me.

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Oh, I agree. In fact, I think a high speed rail hub would make more sense in the swampy pine forest than the airport does...I can see it now: all the Atlanta, B'Ham, Nashville, tourists could just hop on a train to Sowal...then a monorail from the airportto the beach...less jet fuel; fewer cars; no wasted time
 

Matt J

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May 9, 2007
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I think the high-speed rail between Tampa and Orlando makes a helluvalot more sense than an airport in the middle of a swampy pine forest...but that's just me.

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You must have been offline for a while. They built it and they came.
 

SHELLY

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Jun 13, 2005
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You must have been offline for a while. They built it and they came.

...and moreover, so too did million$ and million$ of unbudgeted dollar$ in cost overruns for erosion control, pond filtration areas and DEP permit violations (and now problems inside the terminal facility?)--and soon, lawyers and court costs.

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Matt J

SWGB
May 9, 2007
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...and moreover, so too did million$ and million$ of unbudgeted dollar$ in cost overruns for erosion control, pond filtration areas and DEP permit violations (and now problems inside the terminal facility?)--and soon, lawyers and court costs.

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I saw that coming when they announced the shadiest contractor in the Panhandle was going to build it. Phoenix construction is famous for that kind of crap in Bay County. Why Bay County ever uses them after the sewer line debacle is beyond me.

As usual though instead of holding the contractor responsible the county caves and pays the fines and takes the responsibility.
 

SHELLY

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Jun 13, 2005
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I saw that coming when they announced the shadiest contractor in the Panhandle was going to build it. Phoenix construction is famous for that kind of crap in Bay County. Why Bay County ever uses them after the sewer line debacle is beyond me.

As usual though instead of holding the contractor responsible the county caves and pays the fines and takes the responsibility.

...nice deal for LUV & JOE, not so good of a deal for the taxpayers--whyizit, do you suppose, that the only people who saw this mess coming was you and me?
 

30ashopper

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Apr 30, 2008
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Right here!
I was watching Avatar last night, it reminded me of our wonderful new "eco-friendly" airport that destroyed a couple thousand acres of flood plane.
 

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert
May 8, 2007
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Sowal
Got an earful from Uncle Scooterbug last night about the high speed train project in Wisconsin to connect Milwaukee and Madison - total cluster that makes this one in Florida look fantastic.

Wisconsin beat other other states to get a $810 million grant, has been studying this/working on it for 15 years, and construction has already begin.

But the state just elected a new governor who wants to halt the project and use the money for something else (this is not an option, which has been specifically written into the deal and has also been explained to him by the US Sec of Transportation). He thinks people should just drive cars to get places and doesn't quite get that a grant for high speed rail has to actually be used for high speed rail - a problem shared by many voters.

That's 5,500 jobs down the drain, a total loss of $14.25 million already spent (part of it to Uncle Scooterbug's company), and an additional $83 million the state will have to spend of its own money to upgrade old rail lines. :roll:
 
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