-Local Development Order Required
-State and Federal Permits Required
In my opinion, this is just another example of people not giving a crap and hoping they don't get caught.
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The last two issues of the Walton Sun featured reports of owners of property on Quiet Water Trail, who illegally filled their wetlands, and they were caught, stopped and ordered to remove all of the fill. Guess what? Today, I found another parcel of land which I had intended to show some customers as wetlands of which they should be aware. When we walked to the property which is usually soaking in water, we found it was filled in with several feet of sand. This property is located in Magnolia Beach S/D, on Indian Grass Trail (I am pretty sure about the name of the street, but it will show differently on maps). The Walton County Stop Work Order is issued to Fraine Development LLC, located in Niceville, FL, and I know that Fraine Development LLC owns other lots in this sub-division. The Stop Work Order notes:
-Local Development Order Required
-State and Federal Permits Required
In my opinion, this is just another example of people not giving a crap and hoping they don't get caught.
Photos are below:
-Local Development Order Required
-State and Federal Permits Required
In my opinion, this is just another example of people not giving a crap and hoping they don't get caught.
Photos are below:
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For The Health Of ItFor The Health Of ItBeach Fanatic364 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
For The Health Of ItBeach Fanatic364 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanaticthis has become the funniest post I have ever read. :floor: :floor: :floor:
Uncle TimmyUncle TimmyBeach FanaticBlue Mountain Beach1,013 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Uncle TimmyBeach FanaticBlue Mountain Beach1,013 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticNot only was extensive research done, but there were many years of practical experience also. I doubt seriously you lived here before the days of the mosquito control to experience nature at it's best! Some of those who did experience it, didn't survive do to Malaria, in fact, the cattle they tried to raise couldn't survive it either. I suggest you do more investigation before making judgements. Not everything you learn in college is accurate you know, their statement is that they want to stetch your creative thinking! However, I don't see it stretched a whole lot.
Could you possibly have a bigger chip on your shoulder?
Your personal anecdotes aside; I suspect that in the ?ole days? there weren?t nearly as many people in south Walton and the impact of one individual was negligible to the overall ecology.
I am more comfortable following the guidance, (and regulations) of educated civil and environmental professionals than with ?the way we always did it? mentality.
florida girlflorida girlBeach FanaticSanta Rosa Beach1,453 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
florida girlBeach FanaticSanta Rosa Beach1,453 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticCould you possibly have a bigger chip on your shoulder?
Your personal anecdotes aside; I suspect that in the ?ole days? there weren?t nearly as many people in south Walton and the impact of one individual was negligible to the overall ecology.
I am more comfortable following the guidance, (and regulations) of educated civil and environmental professionals than with ?the way we always did it? mentality.
Just responding in kind! I have no intention of sitting back without protest to the activities and philosophies of those that come here wondering just how we could possibly have lived without their intense knowledge! I for one don't appreciate the lack of respect toward those who have lived and survived through what many of you could never have dreamed of.
:roll: ...and some people think that the poisons, sprayed from the trucks and planes, really don't have any effect on us. :funn: :popcorn:
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rapunzelrapunzelBeach FanaticPoint Washington2,514 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
rapunzelBeach FanaticPoint Washington2,514 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic:roll: ...and some people think that the poisons, sprayed from the trucks and planes, really don't have any effect on us. :funn: :popcorn:
Oh, shut up nouveau Waltonian college boy! :rolling:
florida girlflorida girlBeach FanaticSanta Rosa Beach1,453 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
florida girlBeach FanaticSanta Rosa Beach1,453 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic:roll: ...and some people think that the poisons, sprayed from the trucks and planes, really don't have any effect on us. :funn: :popcorn:
So that's as good as you can do?
So that's as good as you can do?Why should I type more than that? You obviously didn't take time to read any of the longer posts with factual data regarding wetlands. All you seem to care about is spraying poison to kill mosquitos. I'll just watch. :popcorn:
jollyrogerjollyrogerBeach ComberSoWal22 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Comber
jollyrogerBeach ComberSoWal22 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach ComberFlorida Girl, you have some very good points.
However I would like to point out that, like spraying for bugs eliminating wetlands can stop the problem temporarily, but the problem will return just as bad as it was if not worse.
That tree on your roof was just as much nature as the mosquito larvae hatching in your detention ponds. It only existed because man gave it a place to grow, and if we give the mosquitos canals and such, they will have places that are much more hospitable than the wetlands. Even with poisons we cannot match what could occur naturally.
However I would like to point out that, like spraying for bugs eliminating wetlands can stop the problem temporarily, but the problem will return just as bad as it was if not worse.
That tree on your roof was just as much nature as the mosquito larvae hatching in your detention ponds. It only existed because man gave it a place to grow, and if we give the mosquitos canals and such, they will have places that are much more hospitable than the wetlands. Even with poisons we cannot match what could occur naturally.
30A Skunkape30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunky
30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunkyJust have to get this off my chest (woe to us who love tropical medicine)
30A Skunkape30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunky
30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunkyNo tenemos el fiebre amarillo en SOWAL:bang:
30A Skunkape30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunky
30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunkyThis really sucks, no West Nile either!:pissed:
30A Skunkape30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunky
30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunkyWell, I guess filling in that worthless mosquito pool paves the way for terrestrial, er, maybe intestinal worms:clap_1:
Just have to get this off my chest (woe to us who love tropical medicine)Skunkape, I don't understand. Why isn't SoWal colored in dark purple? I thought this was Malaria country. :popcorn:
So it is possible for me to get worms by going barefoot or eating raw cookie dough, like my mother used to tell me. 😱 !!!:floor:
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30A Skunkape30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunky
30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunkySkunkape, I don't understand. Why isn't SoWal colored in dark purple? I thought this was Malaria country. :popcorn:
Cuz skeeters like crackers, and all them fancy Watercolor types from up north Georgia way ran the crackers off. Or maybe window screens, good drainage and air conditioning had something to do with it. Nah, I like the cracker theory, it is a really inconvenient truth.
30A Skunkape30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunky
30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunkySo it is possible for me to get worms by going barefoot or eating raw cookie dough, like my mother used to tell me. 😱 !!!:floor:
Barefoot, yes. Still a popular thing to yell at shoeless lads from a fastmoving automobile. Cookiedough?:idontno: Maybe salmonella, but not worms:lol:
JdargJdargSoWal Expert18,040 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
JdargSoWal Expert18,040 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal ExpertBarefoot, yes. Still a popular thing to yell at shoeless lads from a fastmoving automobile. Cookiedough?:idontno: Maybe salmonella, but not worms:lol:
Whew. I ate cookie dough frozen custard yesterday. For a minute, I thought I was going to have to be de-wormed.:lol:
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Miss KittyMeow47,011 postsJoined View profileMessageMeowbzzzzzzzzzzzz....:floor: Skunky, you might need to find another line of work.
Bobby JBobby JBeach FanaticBlue Mountain beach4,041 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Bobby JBeach FanaticBlue Mountain beach4,041 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticJust how long have you been doing this? Dad died in 1975.
I am still missing your point here. I asked you to help me out and explain your position. I make no claims on being an expert. I sell Real Estate. I bring in experts when I need a wetland determination. Wetland determinations are made by soil samples and visual foliage by trained experts in that area. I surely do not call the mosquito guy.
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