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More Illegal Activity -- Filling in Wetlands

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Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
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The last two issues of the Walton Sun featured reports of owners of property on Quiet Water Trail, who illegally filled their wetlands, and they were caught, stopped and ordered to remove all of the fill. Guess what? Today, I found another parcel of land which I had intended to show some customers as wetlands of which they should be aware. When we walked to the property which is usually soaking in water, we found it was filled in with several feet of sand. This property is located in Magnolia Beach S/D, on Indian Grass Trail (I am pretty sure about the name of the street, but it will show differently on maps). The Walton County Stop Work Order is issued to Fraine Development LLC, located in Niceville, FL, and I know that Fraine Development LLC owns other lots in this sub-division. The Stop Work Order notes:
-Local Development Order Required
-State and Federal Permits Required

In my opinion, this is just another example of people not giving a crap and hoping they don't get caught.

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florida girl avatar
florida girlBeach Fanatic
#77
Skunky ... you are one of those college educated types aren't ya? :funn: :floor: :rolling: :idontno: 😀

We call them educated idiots!
florida girl avatar
florida girlBeach Fanatic
#78
I think he is trying to get the point through that we do not have to worry about these diseases in the present and probably in the future provided we don't screw up more.

Not actually accurate, in fact there are new ones currently, that weren't even thought of in the past, ie Aid's
florida girl avatar
florida girlBeach Fanatic
#79
How many years ago?

1920's.
florida girl avatar
florida girlBeach Fanatic
#80
I am still missing your point here. I asked you to help me out and explain your position. I make no claims on being an expert. I sell Real Estate. I bring in experts when I need a wetland determination. Wetland determinations are made by soil samples and visual foliage by trained experts in that area. I surely do not call the mosquito guy.

Many of the Wetlands determinations are governed by plants that have recently been added to the list. Palmetto, Dollar weed, etc., that at one time were not considered to be in a wetland. Wetlands were considered more a saltmarsh, with tidal activity usually twice daily. Breeding areas for game fish, among other things. Much effort was taken to make sure that the water did not stagnate, but was able to wash through. Fallen debree would clog it up.
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jollyrogerBeach Comber
#81
Not actually accurate, in fact there are new ones currently, that weren't even thought of in the past, ie Aid's
well first I believe it is AIDs.
second mosquitos cannot spread AIDs
florida girl avatar
florida girlBeach Fanatic
#82
Cuz skeeters like crackers, and all them fancy Watercolor types from up north Georgia way ran the crackers off. Or maybe window screens, good drainage and air conditioning had something to do with it. Nah, I like the cracker theory, it is a really inconvenient truth.

Actually, the Swedes and Norwegians that moved here were called "Crackers". And they say we have progressed! So much for equal opportunity, and eliminating racial prejudice! Seems to me human nature hasn't changed, just gotten worse. Put your money where your mouth is! It's a very poor individual that must put someone else down to elevate themself!
kathydwells avatar
kathydwellsDarlene is my middle name, not my nickname
#83
It's a very poor individual that must put someone else down to elevate themself!

i.e.,

We call them educated idiots!
florida girl avatar
florida girlBeach Fanatic
#84
well first I believe it is AIDs.
second mosquitos cannot spread AIDs

Actually they can too. They carry the blood of one to another.
florida girl avatar
florida girlBeach Fanatic
#85
i.e.,

Funny, I didn't know you were born with education, not that there is anything wrong with education. Our actions reflect the decisions we have made. Those decisions create a response, whether positive or negative.
florida girl avatar
florida girlBeach Fanatic
#86
To discriminate because of race, creed, or social status is wrong. But if someone acts like an idiot, he's called an idiot.
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal ExpertAuthor
#87
We call them educated idiots!
Who are the "we" to whom you refer? -- the uneducated intellectuals? :idontno: :floor::popcorn:
florida girl avatar
florida girlBeach Fanatic
#88
Who are the "we" to whom you refer? -- the uneducated intellectuals? :idontno: :floor::popcorn:

Those same people you so liberally ridicule. There's a whole world outside of 30A you know. Perhaps you should do a bit of exploring.
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal ExpertAuthor
#89
Many of the Wetlands determinations are governed by plants that have recently been added to the list. Palmetto, Dollar weed, etc., that at one time were not considered to be in a wetland. Wetlands were considered more a saltmarsh, with tidal activity usually twice daily. Breeding areas for game fish, among other things. Much effort was taken to make sure that the water did not stagnate, but was able to wash through. Fallen debree would clog it up.

Can you help me out here? I was unaware of our twice daily tidal activity here, other than on the shoreline of the Gulf. Where does this activity happen?

Also, since when did Palmettos and Dollar Weed plants determine wetlands?
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal ExpertAuthor
#90
Those same people you so liberally ridicule. There's a whole world outside of 30A you know. Perhaps you should do a bit of exploring.

:floor::floor::floor: You are so right. I've never left this side of the road, and don't know jack about places elsewhere.

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