Redfish Village Beach Access

[Kevin Thompson]

Vagrant I have been looking around the area today and I noticed that the residential preservation on the west side of the 83 and west of 260 blue mtn happens to have Condos on it. On my side of the road, all residential preservation is supposed to be single family. Can you shed some light on that? Why isn't your RP single family instead some condos.

And why is it that the Walton Sun shows one infill lot instead of showing that the lot bordering 260 blue mtn to the west is also Infill? Wonder why the Walton Sun artist didn't draw that accurately?

Finally, I drove down to see the Draper Lake lot which was referred to in the Community Meeting. It's on Gulf View Heights road. Can you tell me your opinion of why Draper Lake has a large bathroom facility and golf cart parking on a Residential Preservation lot? Looks like one of those scary "precedents" to me.

Smiling Joe do you have any insight on this topic?

 

[Smiling JOe]

A possible glimpse into the future as seen by someone not connected with the thread...

I didn't create it....just relayed it. ;-)

This fence has some holes in it for easy access.

 

[Smiling JOe]

Vagrant I have been looking around the area today and I noticed that the residential preservation on the west side of the 83 and west of 260 blue mtn happens to have Condos on it. On my side of the road, all residential preservation is supposed to be single family. Can you shed some light on that? Why isn't your RP single family instead some condos.

And why is it that the Walton Sun shows one infill lot instead of showing that the lot bordering 260 blue mtn to the west is also Infill? Wonder why the Walton Sun artist didn't draw that accurately?

Finally, I drove down to see the Draper Lake lot which was referred to in the Community Meeting. It's on Gulf View Heights road. Can you tell me your opinion of why Draper Lake has a large bathroom facility and golf cart parking on a Residential Preservation lot? Looks like one of those scary "precedents" to me.

Smiling Joe do you have any insight on this topic?

I believe SunSeekers Condominiums were built in the late 1980's, prior to the land use codes which are currently in place. Since the south part of Grande Beach consists of many lots smaller than what Residential Preservation allows, my guess for that is that Grande Beach was also developed prior to the current land use codes.

Regarding the Walton Sun map, it is drawn correctly. If you look closely, you will see that the map is not drawn in parcels, but rather, it is drawn in land use categories. You will also notice that the red dot marking the "proposed private access" is positioned slightly left of center on that land use category.

As for Draper Lake, I have a question for you. Can you tell me how a developer can specifically have golf cart parking at a location where you would have to drive down public roads in order to access the parking lot, which, by the way, is illegal?

 

[Kevin Thompson]

Thank you Smiling Joe I was talking about the Blue Mountain Condos but I guess the same applies. My thought is that for the lay person like me when I look at that article and drawing it makes it look like that lot is right next to single family homes. Even though the Infill lot to the west has one now, it is being marketed as a development parcel then people don't really realize that it's all condos in the "brown" section. I do see your point but it should have been drawn as parcels.

I don't understand your question about Draper Lake but if you are asking me whether it is golf cart parking it is. And there is a big bathroom building - go check it out if you want - on a residential preservation lot.

 

[Smiling JOe]

I was just making the point that even though it is illegal to operate a golf cart on the public road, right of way, and bike/walking trails, Draper Lake Properties have created a parking area specifically for Golf Carts, which in order to access by golf cart, the guest or owners must break the law. As a friend of mine often says, "that ain't right."

 

[Kevin Thompson]

I was just making the point that even though it is illegal to operate a golf cart on the public road, right of way, and bike/walking trails, Draper Lake Properties have created a parking area specifically for Golf Carts, which in order to access by golf cart, the guest or owners must break the law. As a friend of mine often says, "that ain't right."

Any thoughts on how they got this approved on a Residential Preservation lot?

 

[Smiling JOe]

Any thoughts on how they got this approved on a Residential Preservation lot?

The County probably did exactly what they are doing with Refish Village -- not looking at it as commercial. They probably said that the bathrooms did not count towards units for density.

 

[Kevin Thompson]

The County probably did exactly what they are doing with Refish Village -- not looking at it as commercial. They probably said that the bathrooms did not count towards units for density.

I can see this on Infill (of course) but that lot is residential preservation, just like the Redfish Lot 1.

 

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

I've asked before why we were here in the first place having this discussion so near the scheduled closing dates for Redfish Village. Here is just one snippet of one of several emails being sent to the County by others opposing the RFV private access proposal:

.....[regarding the Inn at Blue Mountain Beach]... "Here we are 10 years later and we are right down the street from another mistake that could happen if you and your fellow commissioners don't stand up to these developers who do just about whatever they want to do in Walton County. If you don't believe it then read the story of how they published their access to the gulf in the original advertisements. They never had any respect for the Walton County government because they were counting on approvals that they hadn't even applied for. In the case of 10 years ago things started happening rapidly just like they are now and no one at the governing level would do anything about it. Also the developers PLAY BY THEIR OWN RULES NOT YOURS"....

 

[edroedrog]

I can see this on Infill (of course) but that lot is residential preservation, just like the Redfish Lot 1.

Are you sure that was not the observation tower you were looking at when you pasted the development?