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organicmama

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Jul 31, 2006
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Forget that the United States Constitution was sent through the shredder in seeking out terrorists.

I seem to recall seeing previews for a movie starring Tom Cruise, where potential crimes were being stopped by the law long before they were even planned out by the criminals, based on what might happen in the future. I for one, will give up security in the name of freedom! Any security which we are being provided is false security at best, and we are losing our freedoms daily because of the politrickshuns. I smell dirty diapers...

It's called "Minority Report." The technology used to infiltrate any location, for the sake of security, is pretty scary, especially in regards to the false idea of national security we have presently. Per usual, the mastermind behind the whole idea of "pre-crime," used the technology to cover up his own murderous transgressions. Film noir tends to scarily demonstrate reality sometimes.

Got it, if you want to depress yourself by watching it.
 
There has never been any substantial link between Bin laden and Hussein.
Of course not.
Unfortunately, Cheney and others murkily but effectively presented, over and over again, the idea that there might be. On television shows, during speeches (remember the "Mission Accomplished" speech) the threatening idea of Osama was continuously, if nebulously suggested.
And many American people trusted them--and still do. :eek:
. They are not going to easily forget what we have done, regardless of whether we pulled out of Iraq tomorrow.
And here we are with our troops strained to the breaking point.
 

Mango

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Apr 7, 2006
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Of course not.
Unfortunately, Cheney and others murkily but effectively presented, over and over again, the idea that there might be. On television shows, during speeches (remember the "Mission Accomplished" speech) the threatening idea of Osama was continuously, if nebulously suggested.
And many American people trusted them--and still do. :eek:

And here we are with our troops strained to the breaking point.

Right Cil. It is very scary that some Americans believe everything reported to them at face value. For all we know, Cheney and his cronies could have very well planted all the evidence that they gave Powell to review. The GW admin treated Powell like a second class citizen.

On a lighter note, when I was 22 yrs old, I walked 3 blocks with Colin Powell chatting, and it didn't dawn on me who he was until later since he was dressed in civilian clothing. :lol:
 

30A Skunkape

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Jan 18, 2006
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C'mon over the funn side, Skunkster.;-)

Hopefully the SOWAL franchise can get along better than these peacenicks:funn:

Crawford Peace House Hit by Strife
By ANGELA K. BROWN, Associated Press Writer

Saturday, April 7, 2007


(04-07) 10:28 PDT Crawford, Texas (AP) --


With allegations of money mismanagement, threats of court action and some members leaving, a group that has sponsored war protests in President Bush's adopted hometown has been anything but peaceful.


The Crawford Peace House recently lost its corporate charter with the state, and a former member who now has rights to the name is threatening legal action because the group continues operating.


Sara L. Oliver and some others are calling for a state investigation as to why only $14,700 is now in its bank account, saying tens of thousands donated during Cindy Sheehan's 2005 war protest are unaccounted for.


"There are people who have said, `Don't say anything because you'll hurt the peace movement,'" Oliver said. "But if the peace movement isn't pure and transparent and holy as it can be at its heart, then it's just like George Bush: lying, thieving, conniving, backstabbing bastards."


John Wolf, who co-founded the Crawford Peace House in 2003 in a two-bedroom, one-bathroom white-clapboard house just across the railroad tracks from downtown, denied allegations of wrongdoing. He said the claims were by only a few people and would not hurt the work of the Crawford Peace House, which is planning a fourth anniversary celebration Sunday.


He said the Peace House has an accountant and has kept diligent records, which soon will be posted in its Web site. He said most of the $285,000 raised in 2005 was spent on food, van and bus rentals, gas and a large tent for the rallies at several events.


"All of this money was given to us to take care of people who came here, and that's what we did," Wolf said Friday. "If somebody has fantasies, I can't affect that."


The Crawford Peace House bank account had only $3 in early August 2005, but Sheehan's monthlong vigil in ditches off the road leading to Bush's ranch brought thousands of people and donations from across the country. Because the rural campsite was small, most protesters spent much of their time at the Peace House, which also became headquarters for Sheehan, whose son died in Iraq in 2004.


Wolf said he plans to turn in the franchise tax report next week ? nearly a year late ? to the Texas Comptroller's Office to regain the Peace House's corporate charter. The report was not filed sooner because the house's volunteer director was overwhelmed with other tasks and was confused about whether the paperwork had to be filed if no taxes were owed, he said.


Losing a corporate charter means the board members themselves are liable for any debts the entity might owe, the comptroller's office said.


Wolf said the Texas Secretary of State's Office made a mistake last month in allowing Oliver to file documents forming a nonprofit corporation called the Crawford Peace House.


Wolf said the Crawford Peace House that he co-founded still exists as an unincorporated entity, as well as a religious group, so Oliver is violating state statutes that prevent an organization from having the same or similar name as an existing one.


The Secretary of State's Office was closed Friday for the Easter holiday and no one could be reached for comment.


Wolf said the Peace House also was applying to become a 501(c)3 nonprofit organization.


Oliver, who said she left the group in 2005 after encountering hostility when she tried to help secure grants for it, said she doesn't want to form a counter group. But she said she would allow some current members to use the name, as long as the house director and leaders account for the money and resign.


Sandra Row, another former member, said up to 75 people have left the peace group over concerns about financial issues or hurt feelings. She said in the summer of 2005, she saw buckets of cash donations in the Peace House ? some of which went to pay veterinarian bills for the cat living there. But some demonstrators who bought tents, lanterns and other supplies never got reimbursed, she said.


"You'll never know how much money there is because the cash is gone," Row said.


Wolf said he was not there every day but that the Peace House had receipts for all expenses.


Sheehan, whose name is listed on the 2005 franchise tax report as a Crawford Peace House board member, said Friday that she has never been consulted about its financial matters and knew nothing about the current situation.


Sheehan said the matter would not hurt the peace movement or the weekend's activities coinciding with Bush's weekend ranch visit.


About 50 protesters went to Sheehan's original campsite Friday afternoon and then marched about a mile down the winding, two-lane road to demonstrate in a ditch across from the roadblock set up when Bush is at his ranch.


"We do this to save other people's children, so they won't have to go through what we did," Sheehan said.
 

6thGen

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Aug 22, 2005
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Bloody hell. I head out of town for a day and this erupts. I feel like the first time NYC tourist talking to the crazy people who are usually talking to themselves on the subway. And the way you all create and change my arguments, you might as well be talking to yourselves. I guess I can't blame you since you are so happy to have someone respond at all. I'm headed out for cocktails, dinner and cocktails. You all keep high fiving each other like you do at the frisbee golf tournaments and love-ins and I'll try to get around to decimating your moonbat arguments after Easter.
 

Teresa

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Nov 15, 2004
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Bloody hell. I head out of town for a day and this erupts. I feel like the first time NYC tourist talking to the crazy people who are usually talking to themselves on the subway. And the way you all create and change my arguments, you might as well be talking to yourselves. I guess I can't blame you since you are so happy to have someone respond at all. I'm headed out for cocktails, dinner and cocktails. You all keep high fiving each other like you do at the frisbee golf tournaments and love-ins and I'll try to get around to decimating your moonbat arguments after Easter.
:lol:
jolly good 6gen (golf clap). happy easter.:D
 

Seababe

Beach Comber
Mar 20, 2007
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"I'm headed out for cocktails, dinner and cocktails."

Honestly, it sounds as though you need a few.

"You all keep high fiving each other like you do at the frisbee golf tournaments and love-ins and I'll try to get around to decimating your moonbat arguments after Easter."

And what would be so wrong with frisbee golf and love-ins? Never tried either, not my cup of tea, but I don't feel the need to poo poo on others enjoyment to make myself feel high and mighty.

Geeeez have you ever relaxed and had fun? Life is hard enough without a sense of humor. You should try it sometime. Don't take message boards so seriously, they are just message boards! No need to have a stroke over a political debate or discussion.

Now 6thGen BREATHHHHHHHHE deeply and learn to relax some!

Have a great Easter!
 
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