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Smiling JOe

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SJ, I just dont think it is correct way to calculate the added tip. I tip well, (was in service industry for years) but I think just like Skunky, it should not be calculated that way. I think that on major holidays servers should be tipped extra, ((((how many holidays I missed...:cry:)))) THey do work hard and the slow season is upon them....

You are really confusing me by saying that you always tip on the total amount, tax included, yet you say that you don't think it is a correct way to calculate the tip. :dunno: Help me to see the light, please.
 

30A Skunkape

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If they did, would you have calculated the difference of what you normally tip, and add in the extra $1.60? If you would, you are a rare customer.

No. I would probably add about another 15-20% and not worry about nickel and diming the staff, and I would expect the same from them and not monkey around with a 'tax tip'.
 

InletBchDweller

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Well, I wonder if they left a blank on the reciept for an additional tip above the mandatory 20%? I bet they did, and that is the right place to show appreciation for going above and beyond on a holiday, not by doing something cheesy like squeezing some dough out of your customer by deriving a tip total from taxes. Cheesy practice...

I agree - Cheesy.
I have many times seen people leave above and beyond the added gratuity even when they know they have already been charged one. I have many times left more than the added gratuity.
Generally when I had a table and I could add gratuity I generally did NOT. :yikes:I felt that I should get tipped on my service. I did get burned more than once but most of the time I came out ahead:cool:. I felt that I busted my a$$ more that way. If I see a server, section full, busting his/her aS$ on tables, and especially if it is a holiday or special event night (ie after a game, play, parade, etc) then I always leave extra.
 

Smiling JOe

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I understand your point of principle, but we'll just have to disagree. It sounds as though you and IBD are good tippers and would add even more, and that is why I find it interesting that you seem to be arguing for tipping less than is considered the norm by most everyone. In my opinion, the restaurants are doing that which is customary by the public.
 
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InletBchDweller

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You are really confusing me by saying that you always tip on the total amount, tax included, yet you say that you don't think it is a correct way to calculate the tip. :dunno: Help me to see the light, please.

ok, I will try...:love:

I always tip on the total amount. that is just me. my choice, not anyone elses. I actually tip at least 20% (unless service is just horrible) because it is easy to calculate. I think that when the server does it it is like trying to get extra $ (not alot) from the customer. the tax is not a service that the server gives so why should they make an extra amount on it anyway. :dunno: do u understand my logic now???:wave::love:
 

InletBchDweller

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I understand your point of principle, but we'll just have to disagree. It sounds as though you and IBD are good tippers and would add even more, and that is why I find it interesting that you seem to be arguing for tipping less than is considered the norm by most everyone.

awwwww, is this our first disagreement???:love::D
 

Smiling JOe

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ok, I will try...:love:

I always tip on the total amount. that is just me. my choice, not anyone elses. I actually tip at least 20% (unless service is just horrible) because it is easy to calculate. I think that when the server does it it is like trying to get extra $ (not alot) from the customer. the tax is not a service that the server gives so why should they make an extra amount on it anyway. :dunno: do u understand my logic now???:wave::love:

I completely understand what you are saying, and did from the get go. My sister makes the same point. I just don't understand why you expect the restaurants to do the math differently than probably 90%+ of the public. I bet the general public also rounds up the total to the nearest dollar before adding the tip, for easier math calculations. So in reality, if no additional gratuity is added, the server is making less percentage than normal, due to the lack of customers rounding up for the tip.

I still love you guys. I just don't get your way of thinking, especially based on your statements that you would add even more money.
 

ItzKatzTime

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I once had a server many years ago in CoCoa Beach that gave the check to the customer with tax added to the full amount, making a tip appear to be the tax...they gave him their card and added another tip on the whole amount. That worked for about two days. Those were the days when I rang up all checks. I had been out a few days so he tried to pull a fast one....not one customer caught it, but I did the first time he tried it.....I gave him a warning, the next day he did it again and was fired.

Our servers very seldom self-tip on tables of 6 or more. They know their service and the food with atmosphere usually assures them a great tip. I agreed with Sj on the servers deserving tip plus a little more on Holidays. But I believe that it is the diner's descretion to tip over 20%....having nothing to do with the amount of the sales tax. I would be surprised if the Florida Sales Tax Department wouldn't expect .07% of the tip on the sales tax amount. :dunno: I'm not sure if that makes sense or not!!!!

Anyway Happy Tipping with great service and food!;-)
 

Smiling JOe

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It does make sense about the tax on the tip. I'm not sure about FL laws on this, but in GA, a "required" gratuity or service charge, is required to be taxed. If it is voluntary, tax is not applicable to the gratuity or service charge.
 

Smiling JOe

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Just curious to know when sales tax in our area went to 8 cents on the dollar as was stated in the first post regarding this? Maybe that "required" 20% gratuity was taxed, raising the total tax, thereby looking like 8% tax rather than 7%.
 
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