Who is, this man??? Why does he want to save, my country?

[rehdrahk]

While you are at meetup.com, also check out the other groups ... there is one for Okaloosa, that I am a member of, that is steadily growing and Pensacola has it going on.

There is a rumor that the Pensacola group raised enough money to buy some billboards in their area .... pretty sweet

 

[ckhagen]

And where are you advertising this? I have been looking for one for months. I even stop people on the street that wear Ron Paul T-shirts and ask but so far no luck.

We do
If you visit Ron Paul's website at www.ronpaul2008.com and go to "Get Involved" there's a link to www.meetup.com on there. There are... quote... 74,254 Members in 1,317 Meetup Groups, 7,810 waiting for a Meetup Group. Ron Paul has more members of Meetup groups than all the other candidates, combined.

Our Walton groups are really just getting started as most of us in Walton have been participating in the much larger Okaloosa group.

Ron Paul was the 1988 Libertarian Presidential candidate. So he must have been a libertarian at that time.

Well, if we're going to go by that standard, then Guiliani is still a Dem and Mitt would definitely be pro-choice.

I also understand that Texas allows you to run for dual offices. So he is also running for reelection at the same time he is running for President. I guess he is not one that wishes to go 'all in'.

Have you ever met his constituents in Texas? I have, they would skin him alive if he sold them out for a run for the Presidency. The rule is there, he's taking advantage of it. Hillary isn't giving up her Senatorial seat last I checked, (not that I keep up with her or anything like that, lol).

But I would still love to hear more about him from reasonable people. I tried to talk to some of his supporters at the debate in Orlando and those people were over the top. I have done some research on the internet but all I seem to find are the extreme for and against web sites. His site is okay but I want real people to tell me why I should vote for Paul.

I don't think any of us from the area made it to the Orlando debate. Plenty of us went to St. Pete, but none of us were able to get tickets to the debate even though we registered for tickets several months in advance. We did attend the Florida straw poll and we were aghast at what happened with Mitt buying the hundreds of tickets and his sons handing them out of trash bags in stacks of 40.

That aside, because I do know that straw polls are run that way, just never expected to see it live and in person that bad. We attended a debate watching party at a theater a few blocks from the debate theater. There were 1500 people there. Ron gave a fantastic speech and we were positively thrilled that we went even if we didn't get tickets to the debate.

If you want to learn about his views on the issues... have you visited the campaign website? www.ronpaul2008.com Click on 'Issues' a the top and he's got quite a list covered. If you want to know more beyond that, go to www.ronpaullibrary.com. All of his writings are archived there. Or really, just ask me a question. Usually someone in the group knows where you can find Ron Paul's answer.

 

[ckhagen]

There is a rumor that the Pensacola group raised enough money to buy some billboards in their area .... pretty sweet

Yeah and we've put up 4 (going on 5 or 6?) LED billboard spots in Okaloosa!

 

[wrobert]

Go to meetup.com and search for "Ron Paul South Walton County". The group ckhagen is referring to is the top group listed.

See I guess that was my problem. I searched for the postal communities and not the whole county.

 

[wrobert]

We do
If you visit Ron Paul's website at www.ronpaul2008.com and go to "Get Involved" there's a link to www.meetup.com on there. There are... quote... 74,254 Members in 1,317 Meetup Groups, 7,810 waiting for a Meetup Group. Ron Paul has more members of Meetup groups than all the other candidates, combined.

Our Walton groups are really just getting started as most of us in Walton have been participating in the much larger Okaloosa group.



Well, if we're going to go by that standard, then Guiliani is still a Dem and Mitt would definitely be pro-choice.



Have you ever met his constituents in Texas? I have, they would skin him alive if he sold them out for a run for the Presidency. The rule is there, he's taking advantage of it. Hillary isn't giving up her Senatorial seat last I checked, (not that I keep up with her or anything like that, lol).



I don't think any of us from the area made it to the Orlando debate. Plenty of us went to St. Pete, but none of us were able to get tickets to the debate even though we registered for tickets several months in advance. We did attend the Florida straw poll and we were aghast at what happened with Mitt buying the hundreds of tickets and his sons handing them out of trash bags in stacks of 40.

That aside, because I do know that straw polls are run that way, just never expected to see it live and in person that bad. We attended a debate watching party at a theater a few blocks from the debate theater. There were 1500 people there. Ron gave a fantastic speech and we were positively thrilled that we went even if we didn't get tickets to the debate.

If you want to learn about his views on the issues... have you visited the campaign website? www.ronpaul2008.com Click on 'Issues' a the top and he's got quite a list covered. If you want to know more beyond that, go to www.ronpaullibrary.com. All of his writings are archived there. Or really, just ask me a question. Usually someone in the group knows where you can find Ron Paul's answer.

Are YOU going to tell me why YOU think I should vote for Ron Paul? I already did that other stuff but I have yet to hear an argument from a person that is committed to his campaign.

 

[CayceCol]

de-lurking... hi!

GOP, I am a 20-something, former... Nader-voter... that has been raised as a disenfranchised hippie child of the Reagan era. I am a new mom who is over-taxed, under-insured and seeking real change.

I support Ron Paul because I am tired of the "Washington machine" - I am tired of my liberties being compromised - The things I abhor the most are the current conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan and the tired justifications supporting these conflicts.

Among many other things, Dr. Paul has offered coherent platforms on leaving Iraq, getting rid of the income tax and limiting governmental spending. He has promised to lower barriers to efficent health care. He has identified and spoken out against the current administrations' threat to Americans' civil libeties.



How can you not love this guy?!

 

[ckhagen]

Are YOU going to tell me why YOU think I should vote for Ron Paul? I already did that other stuff but I have yet to hear an argument from a person that is committed to his campaign.

Sure.
Hm, where do I start?

Well, I guess one of the issues closest to home for me is his my personal liberties especially regarding healthcare choice. I staunchly oppose forced vaccinations (family history of severe reactions) for one and he agrees. I personally favor his opposition to CODEX compliance and restrictions on our nutritional supplements. And of course, since I was homeschooled from grades K-12, I have to applaud his homeschooling support and his commitment to keep the Federal government (DoE) out of homeschooling and the idea of equal consideration for scholarships for HS'd students.

That stuff is small potatoes though. What it all comes down to is his commitment to reducing the size of the Federal government, reducing spending drasticly, reducing taxes (ie, discontinuing the Federal Income Tax and NOT replacing it with sales tax!)... reduce, reduce, reduce.

Of course, I also agree with his Iraq war views. And his Iran views (which appear to have been right all along).

His economic policies are so different from everyone else's and make a lot of sense. The dollar is a disaster, he seems to be the only one who has a real solution.

Really though, there are a thousand other issues and those may be more important to you than the ones that are important to me. The best thing about him is his record. You know exactly what he stands for because he sticks with what he believes in and his record reflects it.

Cayce pretty much summed it up by saying we're fed up with the "Washington Machine".

 

[Smiling JOe]

Some quotes from Wikipedia, re: Ron Paul:

"Special interests have replaced the concern that the Founders had for general welfare. Vote trading is seen as good politics. The errand-boy mentality is ordinary, the defender of liberty is seen as bizarre. It's difficult for one who loves true liberty and utterly detests the power of the state to come to Washington for a period of time and not leave a true cynic." -- Ron Paul

2008 campaign chair Kent Snyder first worked for (Ron)Paul on the 1988 campaign—when U.S. Senator John McCain told him, "You're working for the most honest man in Congress."

"Unlike many political candidates, Paul receives the overwhelming majority of his campaign contributions from individuals.[91] In 2005 and 2006, individuals contributed 96.8% of the funds he raised. Federal Election Commission (FEC) records show Paul accepts money from political action committees (PAC's), although much less than most of his counterparts in Congress. Paul received PAC money during the 1998 (5.7%), 2000 (4.5%), 2002 (1.8%), 2004 (5.8%), and 2006 (2.1%) Congressional electoral cycles.[92] In a special report, the group Clean Up Washington listed Paul as taking the seventh-lowest amount of PAC money of all House members, as well as accepting one of the lowest amounts of lobbyist money and taking the fourth-highest percentage of contributions from small donors. Their data studied contributions from the 2000 election cycle to midway through 2006.[93] Of the 2008 Republican presidential candidates, he has accepted the lowest percentage of PAC money."

Actions in Congress
"Paul was on a bipartisan coalition of 17 members of Congress that sued President Bill Clinton in 1999 over his conduct of the Kosovo war. They accused Clinton of failing to inform Congress of the action's status within 48 hours as required by WPR, and of failing to obtain Congressional declaration of war as specifically required in the Constitution. Congress had voted 427–2 against a declaration of war with Yugoslavia, and had voted to deny support for the air campaign in Kosovo. A federal judge dismissed the lawsuit, ruling that since Congress had voted for funding after Clinton had actively engaged troops in the war with Kosovo, legislators had sent a confusing message about whether they approved of the war. Paul said that the judge's decision attempted to circumvent the Constitution and to authorize the president to conduct a war without approval from Congress."

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I will say this for the man, he has one fascinating background which seems to be filled with much experience in many aspects.

 

[wrobert]

Sure.

That stuff is small potatoes though. What it all comes down to is his commitment to reducing the size of the Federal government, reducing spending drasticly, reducing taxes (ie, discontinuing the Federal Income Tax and NOT replacing it with sales tax!)... reduce, reduce, reduce.

Then why would a left leaning, liberal democrat be supporting him?

His economic policies are so different from everyone else's and make a lot of sense. The dollar is a disaster, he seems to be the only one who has a real solution.

What is his solution?


Also could you explain the problem with CODEX? I did some reading and again I must be missing something.

 

[Smiling JOe]

Sure.



Then why would a left leaning, liberal democrat be supporting him?




What is his solution?


Also could you explain the problem with CODEX? I did some reading and again I must be missing something.

Just a guess, but maybe that democrat wants Paul to win, because he is the only Rep who is against the war. Or, maybe they want him to take votes away from an electable candidate, sending the Paul voters who like the no-war stuff over to the dems. Or, maybe they just haven't looked at Ron Paul's history of wanting a very limited, small Federal Gov't. Paul is also in favor of giving much of the Fed power back to the States, as the founding fathers wanted. This would include any decisions on gay marriage and abortion. That alone should be enough to outweigh his drive for small Fed Gov't (which is very anti-Dem).