Who is, this man??? Why does he want to save, my country?

[30abob]

Okay here is a question for the RP supporters. If RP does not win the Republican nomination, will you then continue to be involved by selecting a candidate that most closely has the same ideas and thoughts as RP, or will you drop out of the political process and not do anything to affect change?

I did find a south Walton meetup, being held in south Okaloosa. Sort of defeats the purpose if you ask me. Like when the Walton County Chamber has a lunch in Okaloosa County.

Drop out? No. Find someone else? I hope, but no luck so far.

I think the "next" meetup for Walton Co. will be in Walton Co., at the new Panera Bread @ Silver Sands.

 

[Bdarg]

Just a guess, but maybe that democrat wants Paul to win, because he is the only Rep who is against the war. Or, maybe they want him to take votes away from an electable candidate, sending the Paul voters who like the no-war stuff over to the dems. Or, maybe they just haven't looked at Ron Paul's history of wanting a very limited, small Federal Gov't. Paul is also in favor of giving much of the Fed power back to the States, as the founding fathers wanted. This would include any decisions on gay marriage and abortion. That alone should be enough to outweigh his drive for small Fed Gov't (which is very anti-Dem).

Was there not a war in the mid 1800's that was to decide the role of states rights vs. federal union? Didn't hundreds of thousands of Americans die in the war? Was it not the party of Lincoln (a.k.a. GOP) that won the war for the UNION? When did the GOP change their mind on that war?

 

[wrobert]

Drop out? No. Find someone else? I hope, but no luck so far.

I think the "next" meetup for Walton Co. will be in Walton Co., at the new Panera Bread @ Silver Sands.

The meetup site says Panera Bread at Destin Commons. I am sure someone can correct that. IF I were to decide to drive all the way down there I would certainly not want to go to the wrong place.

 

[wrobert]

Was there not a war in the mid 1800's that was to decide the role of states rights vs. federal union? Didn't hundreds of thousands of Americans die in the war? Was it not the party of Lincoln (a.k.a. GOP) that won the war for the UNION? When did the GOP change their mind on that war?

From what I have read about Lincoln he was a big Federal rights person. The war was to keep the union together. As far as the GOP changing their mind, from what I see it seems to change as the power structure changes. When the Dems ran Tallahassee, the GOP was all for local control, then when they got in charge they wanted State control. The same thing happens at the Fed level. They want control at the level that they control.

Personally, I am for local control. I think communities can and should be different. And I see no problem with different laws and standards in different parts of this country.

 

[Smiling JOe]

bdarg,

Good question. As I understand it, Constitutionalists and Libertarians are in agreement that basic rights like freedom from slavery is a Federal issue. Not a State issue. If an issue is addressed in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Amendments to the Constitution, it is a Federal issue. If the issue is not, it would be a State issue. So, they would be in agreement with Abe Lincoln in that States should not be able to make decisions on things such as slavery. Control of Gambling, Drinking, abortion, marriage, smoking, drug use, etc are not the role of Federal Gov't, as they are not addressed in Constitution and or Amendments, or the Bill of Rights. Does that make sense?

 

[seacrestkristi]

It does mention freedom to pursue happiness. Seems those would be included under that, no?

 

[Smiling JOe]

Thinking about the power returning to the States, in a sense, isn't that different than having different communities or subdivisions in a town. Some have hardly any regulations and rules, while others will tell you what type of fence to have, where to place it, the location of your porch and the exterior paint color of your house.

 

[Smiling JOe]

It does mention freedom to pursue happiness. Seems those would be included under that, no?

Sorry, I left out another important document which would fall under the Federal Gov't -- The Declaration of Independence covers the pursuit of happiness.

 

[User 3]

Okay here is a question for the RP supporters. If RP does not win the Republican nomination, will you then continue to be involved by selecting a candidate that most closely has the same ideas and thoughts as RP, or will you drop out of the political process and not do anything to affect change?

If he does not win the Republican nomination, I hope he would run as a Third Party candidate. He has not stated anything of the sort, but imho, I don't think he has ruled it out. If he did not run as a Third Party candidate, I would write-in Ron Paul on my ballot.

I did find a south Walton meetup, being held in south Okaloosa. Sort of defeats the purpose if you ask me. Like when the Walton County Chamber has a lunch in Okaloosa County.

The meeting you are referring to is also on the Okaloosa meetup page. The SoWal group appears to be a lot smaller than the Okaloosa group. If they are collaborating together, I would say it makes sense.

 

[wrobert]

If he does not win the Republican nomination, I hope he would run as a Third Party candidate. He has not stated anything of the sort, but imho, I don't think he has ruled it out. If he did not run as a Third Party candidate, I would write-in Ron Paul on my ballot.

If he does not win the Republican nomination he has zero chance of winning nationally. So you would write him in, instead of trying to change things slowly with the ultimate result being to get someone like RP in office. This sort of strategy, imho, is why things will never change. It makes no sense if you want to win.

The meeting you are referring to is also on the Okaloosa meetup page. The South Walton group appears to be a lot smaller than the Okaloosa group. If they are collaborating together, I would say it makes sense.

I have ran more than one campaign myself. And the lack of organization is going to be the downfall here. How are you going to get people motivated if they do not even know where to go to meet others?