Iowa Watching Party

[peapod1980]

Is this also the part of "Stop Making Sense" where is repeatedly smacks himself in the head?

Bingo!

 

[Bob]

I was going to reply to 6thgen's prodding with something similar to the above. I have read a lot (but not all) of Obama's platform, and I wish he were a little more centrist to be sure. But the presidency requires leadership and judgment. There is something electric about him, and I do believe he would use his obvious intelligence for good not evil. :roll: Who he would surround himself with is an obvious and important question.

I think Hillary on paper is the most logical candidate (next to McCain, though on paper McCain is also too old), and she has been a very effective senator by all accounts. But despite her centrist views, I frankly don't trust her -- which is disappointing, because I would like to want to vote for her. If that makes any sense.

What's interesting is that while Obama is highly intelligent, he is not intimidating or unapproachable. Al Gore was such a policy wonk that he just could not compete with W's easy manner. We all know where that got us. Kerry is wonkish too but obviously had other problems running his campaign. Obama is not only intelligent but has that gift of connecting with people, which I suppose is the main reason I consider him "exciting and fascinating."



Excellent question pea. Newsweek had a cover story on him about 6 weeks ago that made a compelling case for him as an independent candidate. It was written if I recall by editor Jon Meacham though, and while I have loved Meacham's reporting on religion (and keep meaning to get his book), I'm not sure I like the tone of the magazine as much since he took over. I felt like he was trying to set the agenda, instead of just providing the analysis that I look forward to.

there is something electric about Obama....it's his control freak wife's eyeballs!

 

[peapod1980]

there is something electric about Obama....it's his control freak wife's eyeballs!

 

[Bob]

Honey, I'm home. Help me!

 

[seacrestkristi]

 

[Mango]

Mangy, what are your feelings about the suggestion of Bloomberg? I know any of my NY friends would shudder at the suggestion.

Why is that? Personally I have mixed feelings.

 

[Smiling JOe]

Why laughable SJ? I've seen many a tax return in my business. A W2 wage earning family with a home and a couple of dependents is an easy return once you punch in your earnings, home figures, and # of dependents into a computer program. Although, it's not going to be the idea of the decade that is going to send me racing to the polls, but I think he was trying to include in that section how he would like to simplify life/gov't in general. I did read that page.

As far as Veep, I have no suggestions as of yet.

It is laughable because the problem with the IRS and our tax system is not that the middle class takes a long time to do their taxes. It is not even putting a bandage on the wound.

 

[peapod1980]

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Why is that? Personally I have mixed feelings.

I'd have to ask my most adamant anti-Bloomberg friend what her biggest gripe is, because she always reacts negatively whenever his name is even mentioned. She was a lifelong Brooklynite who moved to Jersey a few years ago. Guess he drove her out.

 

[Smiling JOe]

I'm not sure about candidates' IQs, but I can tell you that GW's is in the idiot range.

I agree with most of the general comments by TooFarTampa, regarding Hillary and Obama, but I stress that Obama's policies are too far left, and that scares me. For the record, JDarg, I don't make my opinions on a candidate based on a speech or two.

Last night on some public TV show titled NOW, they were interviewing the real, behind-the-scenes hired guns of former politicians. You wouldn't believe some of the things they admit to doing while running negative campaigns. They even point out their "informed" guesses as to who started which email or flyer, etc in today's race. They are partially responsible for giving politicians a four letter name.

John R made me laugh with the Chuck Norris comment. I was watching one interview regarding Iowa, last night. The lady compared all of these ideas of "change" from Sen Obama, Sen Clinton, and Hucksterbee. Sen Obama was standing in front of a mixed crowd of fans, some old, some young, some dressed in suits and some wearing jeans and tee shirts. Sen Clinton had Bill Clinton, Madeline Albright, and a bunch of elderly conservatively dressed people. Hucksterbee had Chuck Norris standing beside him. It was almost as funny as watching Charlie Brown. I think these candidates would go on that TV show about people eating disgusting things to win. I bet they would even eat their own poo to win.

 

[Jdarg]

I'm not sure about candidates' IQs, but I can tell you that GW's is in the idiot range.

I agree with most of the general comments by TooFarTampa, regarding Hillary and Obama, but I stress that Obama's policies are too far left, and that scares me. For the record, JDarg, I don't make my opinions on a candidate based on a speech or two.

You kept talking about speeches, so it looked like you were watching/listening only.