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30A Skunkape

Skunky
Jan 18, 2006
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Backatown Seagrove
i agree with you florida girl....there is no easy way to make any money here...i wish there was

sowal is mostly transplants who have made money elsewhere (or still making money elsewhere)

us little people truly do eat ramen off our granite kitchen tops!:funn:

Florida Lottery Jackpot drawings are held every Wednesday and Saturday, proceeds go to educate our young'uns so they can work in Niceville fast food eateries.:D
 
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beachmouse

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Dec 5, 2004
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Bluewater Bay, FL
I wonder if the people in Niceville look around HWY 20 and declare how great it would be to live someplace that was spared the 'geography of nowhere' sprawl look.

I'd rather live here than on 30-A. From my house, I can walk or bike to the grocery store, bank, medical complex, gym, four different pools, a couple different restaurants, and elementary school. I could even bike to work if I wanted to commute that way. The quiet office complexes tucked behind the grocery store hold high wage-high tech jobs where an engineer makes $75K+ a year.

SoWal, everything's so spread out you've got to drive for so many daily activities.
 

30A Skunkape

Skunky
Jan 18, 2006
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Backatown Seagrove
I'd rather live here than on 30-A. From my house, I can walk or bike to the grocery store, bank, medical complex, gym, four different pools, a couple different restaurants, and elementary school. I could even bike to work if I wanted to commute that way. The quiet office complexes tucked behind the grocery store hold high wage-high tech jobs where an engineer makes $75K+ a year.

SoWal, everything's so spread out you've got to drive for so many daily activities.

Any place has pros and cons. I like living so close to the ocean that I can hear it roaring when I take the dogs out at night. I do wish things were a bit closer, but there is a certain beauty of living in seclusion much of the year
 

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert
May 8, 2007
16,706
3,339
Sowal
There once was a gauge of 1/4 of your monthly income spent for housing, really not a bad idea. However, if someone makes $15 per hour, that's $2600 per month, $650 would be 1/4, less tax and ss. What kind of house can they actually afford? And where do they find that kind of a house? If the guage of "mean" housing is used, and high is multi-million, and low is about poverty level, who actually can afford the mean housing? Are there such people here?

I don't think you can get a house & utilities for $650 a month pre tax in most places in the US. :dunno:
 

florida girl

Beach Fanatic
Feb 3, 2006
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Santa Rosa Beach
I really don't want this area to turn into Niceville or Bay County. That is why I moved to SoWal! We have plenty of stores within easy driving distance!

Guess it depends on what you want to buy, and for how much. Of course, there is also the question of earning the money where to pay for the how much?! I made a comment years ago, YOU CAN'T EAT PRESTIGE!
 

elgordoboy

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Feb 9, 2007
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I no longer stay in Dune Allen
Guess it depends on what you want to buy, and for how much. Of course, there is also the question of earning the money where to pay for the how much?! I made a comment years ago, YOU CAN'T EAT PRESTIGE!
Move to N'ville or Bay county. It isn't so far that you can't still visit and care for your people.
 

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert
May 8, 2007
16,706
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Sowal
I think part of it is that people need to adjust their expectations/how they figure what is affordable. Owning a home is a big achievement and not something everyone can afford, especially on just one salary.

The national average salary for someone 25 years or older who works full time and only has a high school education is $31,500 a year - basically $15 an hour.

IMO we shouldn't be basing our analysis of the affordability of local housing costs on a single income with only a high school diploma.

This is where I was getting my stats:
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_States[/ame]
 

florida girl

Beach Fanatic
Feb 3, 2006
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Santa Rosa Beach
Move to N'ville or Bay county. It isn't so far that you can't still visit and care for your people.

And they say nobody listens!!! How about another alternative thrown into the mix? Say, better paying jobs? If people have to move from their homes, where they have lived for generations, just to better their lifestyle, this choice leads often times to depression. Quite a dilemma actually, sometimes leading to the popular pastime, sit in the woods and drink BEER!
 
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