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Matt J

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Not that I don't believe what the "leaders" at CV3000 want us to believe, but I don't believe what they want us to believe. In my opinion, I have about as much faith in what they say as I have in what a politician says during election year. They have to push their product to the public, so they create things which sound good, to make it taste better when they shove it down our throats.

Anyone else want to share their thoughts of my suggestion as to why CV3000 was created?

I believe you are right and it's not the first time I've heard the theory that Okaloosa/FWB are very scared. By "tieing the area together" they might be able to get in on the new airport and the tourism that will follow. This false caring of "coming together" to "help each other out" is nothing more than an attempt to pull various TDC's and community organizations into a situation where they are supporting a suffering area.

I notice that none of the prominent business men in PCB have jumped on board. Seems somewhat odd in my book.
 

Matt J

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May 9, 2007
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I just can't help myself - no, SGG - I just know how to work my way around a computer REALLY fast to reference things. Out of the sandbox for me, now - Mamas a' callin'

Yeah your quick alrighty, so you voted against THE Beach?
 

yippie

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Oct 28, 2005
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Article Published Today, Monday March 31, 2008 in The Northwest Florida Daily News.



TDC chips in to become part of "The Beach"
Fraser Sherman|Florida Freedom Newspapers
Monday March 31st, 2008

Comment on this Story | Read Comments

Branding is what gives Orlando the edge in attracting tourists over the Emerald Coast, ResortQuest?s Lino Maldonado says.
?We?re Florida?s number two destination next to Orlando, but we have more empty rooms,? Maldonado, a member of Okaloosa County?s Tourist Development Council, said at this week?s TDC meeting. The reason, he said, is that Orlando is identified with Disney and even non-Disney attractions benefit from that.

Wednesday, the TDC voted to spend $15,000 to become a member of Coastal Vision 3000, a Panhandle tourism group hoping to establish a similar brand for Northwest Florida, under the name ?THE Beach.?

?This is the same concept,? Maldonado said. ?We all come together under one halo-type brand that can attract business to this region ... If we all work together, we can all grab a piece of everything new that?s created.?

Some residents and elected officials have dismissed ?THE Beach? as a generic name that would work less well than ?Emerald Coast.? Maldonado said Coastal Vision 3000 doesn?t want to rename Emerald Coast or Beaches of South Walton; it wants to use THE Beach as an added marketing tool for Destin, South Walton and the rest of the Panhandle.

Maldonado said a regional brand is needed because airlines and other businesses considering expanding into Northwest Florida have no single tourism representative they can talk to.

?They aren?t interested in talking to 19 different groups of people,? Maldonado said. ?They want a regional approach.?

The TDC?s Ken Paine said that VisitFlorida, the state?s tourism organization, operates on the same principle, but a group focused on Northwest Florida could produce added benefits.

Buying a $15,000 membership for the next year gives the TDC a board seat and a vote in the organization; a priority listing on the Coastal Vision Web site; and a listing in Coastal Vision?s direct-mail campaign, along with other benefits.

?Our TDC would get one vote out of 30,? Okaloosa Island resident Dave Sherry objected. He said the $15,000 could be better spent on beach restoration.

TDC member Mike Minich said the Coastal Vision membership would be bought with some of the TDC?s advertising money, so it wouldn?t have gone to beach restoration anyway.

Paine said the $15,000 is only one year?s membership, so the TDC can evaluate the benefits over the next 12 months and decide whether it?s worth renewing.

Maldonado said that boosting tourism would generate more of the bed tax revenue that pays for TDC operations, including beach restoration ? a good thing when Florida is proposing heavy cuts in beach-restoration funding.

?If (restoration) takes two or three years, why not act now to get more people in?? Maldonado said. ?If we can?t get more sand on the beach, we need more people through the gates.?
 

Rita

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I really think so. Behind only DisneyWorld, in Orlando, Panama City Beach is ranked number 2 in drive to destinations in Florida. Panama City Beach doesn't include the Destin area, nor the Gulf County area, nor SoWal. Everyone in Bay County is very aware of this. People outside of Bay County also know this. Pier Park was recently completed, and is only 10 miles or so from the new PCB airport location. Other theme park industries have also looked, and some have bought, property in close proximity to the new PCB airport location. Port Panama has more than doubled in their shipping volume in the last three years. Talk on the street is that Cruise Ships may be looking at Port Panama as a place to station cruise ships. Ebro Dog Track may also be expanding gambling facilities to include new types of gambling. yada, yada, yada.

It is my personal opinion that the people in Destin, who are spearheading this CV3000, are scared to death that PCB, with all of the future growth of tourism, will capture an even higher percentage of the tourists coming to NW Florida, leaving Destin, a "sleepy little fishing village." The people in Bay County couldn't care less about trying to rebrand PCB into The (TM) Beach, because they will be getting all of the future action from the tourists. PCB is already the number 2 drive-to destination in FL, and soon, when the airport is up and running, Destin will not be a consideration by many people who will fly into PCB.

(Isn't Jay Odum on both the CV3000 and the NW FL Transportation Corridor Authority? I think so. I'm beginning to wonder if he and the other NWFTCA Board Members are also scared that PCB will take all of the tourists, hence the NWFTCA creating all of these roads getting people from the PCB airport to Destin, St Joe, Apalachicola, etc. -- not a conspiracy, but sure fits into my thoughts of why CV3000 was started).

I think SJ is hitting the nail on the head and suspect IJ would have a tough time rebutting this.

The crucial thing is - what can we do to stop it?

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yippie

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Oct 28, 2005
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I contacted an person of importance and ask a few questions. I got some interesting answers. Some of this you already know, and is boring reading, but please read the questions, which I will quote and the answers following.

1. Who is spearheading this branding movement?

The movement began by a group of pretty strong business leaders. It began when they were hearing from the airlines (mainly Southwest) that the area was too splintered without one consistent identity, and that was not attractive to them to begin flying into the area.


2. Why do people feel the identity that has become a household slogan,
"Emerald Coast" should be changed?

Not everyone does. But the group that started Coastal Vision 3000 did. Since they are the group that started, they are creating a new brand. We will still have all of the other branding that’s been used, but it will also incorporate The Beach into it as well.



3. Personally, I don't feel that we should try to brand the entire
Panhandle as one complete area since there are so many different types
of cultures. (May be the wrong word, but good example is Apalachacola
vs. Destin) Why do people thing each beach town should lose it's
separate identity?

Many people feel the same way you do, and it is very tough to argue against your points.



4. I read a comment by Ken Paine, "If we can't get more sand on the
beach, then we need to bring more people through the gates". I disagree
with this statement, partly. I am not against bringing more people
through the gates, however, each tourist is looking for a different
atmosphere. Whether totally laid back, such as 30-A, or busy such as
Destin. I think the whole rebranding could backfire because it would
only confuse tourist, and frankly piss them off.

Again, many feel the same as you. And this is one of the strong points of the Destin area/region. We have so many different things for different wants. In fact, I just had a conversation the other day with a exec friend of mine in Minnesota who is coming down the end of April for vacation. He asked me about three different condos, all in very different locations. I ended up telling him Crystal Beach is probably where he wanted to stay, or even another condo further to the west at which he was looking, because of what he and his wife wanted. This was in comparison the mid-30A area. He wasn’t really looking for laid back. But have that area for those who are.

5. Why should we try to fix something that isn't broke?

Again, very difficult to answer; I don’t have an answer.

6. The Emerald Coast, The Beaches of South Walton, the Forgotten Coast,all the in place branding sounds so much more appealing than "THE Beach"
Again, I cannot dispute what you are saying here.

7. Where is the marketing firm that is presenting this idea from?

The marketing firm, I believe, is out of Mobile. They were brought in after much of the process had been completed, I believe. They have taken the idea generated from many meetings and put it ‘to print’ and to concept.

Thanks so much for your time. I really feel that Destin has already lost the partof our identity as a small fishing village, but we will never lose the fact that our water is the brilliant Emerald color that can only be
found here, in Destin and the surrounding area. The water is different in Pensacola, St. George. etc. Island, etc.

You’re welcome. And you are exactly right.

NOW THE FOLLOW UP.


If this group really believes that we need to do all this to bring Southwest Airlines into the area, then they need to open their eyes. Our problem with airlines coming into the area lies with the airport and that is where the pressure should be placed.

I do know that the Okaloosa Airport has been working to land SW – I’ve written support letters. But with the Bay County airport about to be constructed, a lot of focus is heading that way. Destin will benefit from that, so that is exciting.

It seems that the people who are opposing are doing a lot of talking, but are fragmented. Is there an organized group forming to oppose this?


If there is an organized effort, I don’t know about it.


The answer to the above poster

The crucial thing is - what can we do to stop it?
- Form a group to oppose this.

OK. Does anyone else know of a group to "counter act" this THE Beach effort? Is anyone willing to form one?

If not, does anyone have the complete list of people who are on the Vision 3000 board, including e-mail addresses and if nothing else, we can make a form letter for people to e-sign and send to these people?
 
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Smiling JOe

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I don't oppose a common branding for the area. We already have one, the Emerald Coast. I see no need to paint over that branding, with a new name.
 

seagrovegirl

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Thank you, Yippe. I appreciate the work you put into your post to inform us on CV 3000. Those were good questions you asked. Here are some questions for Sowal;

Why is SouthWest Airlines so important?

Why do they need one entity, or any entity for that matter?
 

yippie

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Oct 28, 2005
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Thank you, Yippe. I appreciate the work you put into your post to inform us on CV 3000. Those were good questions you asked. Here are some questions for Sowal;

Why is SouthWest Airlines so important?

Why do they need one entity, or any entity for that matter?

I will be happy to ask those questions, however, before I do, could you clarify exactly what you are asking in your second question. Does my #4 or rather my #3 (excuse the typo) in the longer post answer that, or is your question completely different?
 
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seagrovegirl

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I will be happy to ask those questions, however, before I do, could you clarify exactly what you are asking in your second question. Does my #4 or rather my #3 (excuse the typo) in the longer post answer that, or is your question completely different?

I didn't find a question in your former post that relates to my question #2. Let me see if I can explain it better.

According to a statement you made, Sw Air needs one entity to deal with instead of a scattering of different communities. My question is WHY? Are they in the tourism business? I understand they want as many flights as possible to the area...but that should be our quest...to identify our communities (IMO individually). The airport will be in the Emerald Coast. Then label each community under that umbrella. It sounds like THE Beach will just make another confusing entity.
 
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