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30ashopper

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Apr 30, 2008
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Right here!
I am curious what ya'll think-

I believe if Obama was not an African American, the democratic party would not have picked him as their candidate...

What do you think?
Agree or disagree?

Feel free to explain why if you like...

Thx for playing...

30a
 

Geo

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Dec 24, 2006
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A Star of any color...

Absolutely Disagree...

Think about it-

If a white male (the standard in politics) came out of, let's say, Arkansas-

with a very articulate message of change after a Bush presidency,

someone young, fresh and able to inspire and motivate masses,

someone with a focus on hope,

someone who achieves celebrity status because of their aura,

irrespective of experience-

Don't you think it is feasible that this person could defy the odds and win the dem's nomination as well as the presidency?

Sound familiar?

Think Bill Clinton...

A star of any color is a star!

Not only do I believe that the dems would have chosen Obama if he was not black-

I believe that his color is a serious liability in this election...

There are millions of people in this country who will vote for anyone who runs against Obama solely because of the color of his skin. I am friends with and related to many of these folks. Sad but true...
 
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Smiling JOe

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Geo, Bill Clinton was a centralist, not extreme left. I do agree that many voters may vote against Obama based solely on his skin color, but I think that just as many, if not more, want to show that America wants to move past race, and putting a black man in the Country's highest Office, will show the world, and ourselves, that we disapprove of the racial history in America. If, and only if, all else were equal between the candidates, I'd vote for a black person or a female b/c of race and sex.

I think many voters will skip the research on the candidates, and base their decision on sound-bites from late night comedy shows, like Colbert, Leno, Letterman, Kimmel, and Sat Night Live, or from the pictures and headlines they see in People magazine, The Star, The Enquirer, etc.
 

Chickpea

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Completely disagree

What is compelling to me is his brilliance and ideas and ideals - couldn't care less about color or religion
 

Geo

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Geo, Bill Clinton was a centralist, not extreme left. I do agree that many voters may vote against Obama based solely on his skin color, but I think that just as many, if not more, want to show that America wants to move past race, and putting a black man in the Country's highest Office, will show the world, and ourselves, that we disapprove of the racial history in America. If, and only if, all else were equal between the candidates, I'd vote for a black person or a female b/c of race and sex.

I think many voters will skip the research on the candidates, and base their decision on sound-bites from late night comedy shows, like Colbert, Leno, Letterman, Kimmel, and Sat Night Live, or from the pictures and headlines they see in People magazine, The Star, The Enquirer, etc.

I hear ya, SJ.

But 30aShopper's question about Obama (which mirrors mine verbatim about Palin on the other thread- very cool) asks if the dems would have picked Obama as their candidate if he was not an African American...

Centrist or not, Clinton is about the best example I can think of to back me up that the dems would have picked Obama as their man if he was white. He was the best choice based on what he brings to the table despite his race, not because of it (which I feel is the case for Palin- related to gender)...
 
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