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Matt J

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May 9, 2007
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Neither McCain or Obama will have any effect on housing, it's a market correction that was due to happen. There is nothing either of these two men can do too change that. Go back to school and take an econ 101 class SWGB, you obviously need a refresher course.

Clearly, I live here and you don't. :roll:
 

Miss Critter

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Mar 8, 2008
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BOYS!!!! FOCUS!!! You're both about to drop and give me twenty for conduct unbecoming a cadet! :nono1:

Um, I think I want a job where I get to say that. :D

I will finally be able to afford to live on the beach. This really makes me sad when I think about it. I imagine that the Europeans will keep the prices propped up as the dollar falls.

Nah, they won't be able to get here because all the airlines will stop flying due to high oil prices. Patience. . . .;-)
 

Chickpea

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Dec 15, 2005
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Back to the point here....

I am personally so sick of the experience card being played - Bush surrounded himself with some of the most experienced, supposedly bright men and women and many of us would be hard pressed to find a time where there has been such dismal incompetence and failure on so many fronts.
 

NoHall

hmmmm......can't remember
May 28, 2007
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...and Ronald Reagan's political experience consisted of 8 years as governor (unless you count his experience as president of the Screen Actors Guild.)
 

GoodWitch58

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Oct 10, 2005
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Interesting take on Palin/McCain from the conservative point of view:

Norm Ornstein, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
I am troubled by it, not the least because of the way it was done — last minute, impulsive, with the presidential candidate barely knowing his choice and without an extensive vetting done well in advance. The ethical issue is also troublesome, just from what we know on the record. Gov. Palin is by all accounts honest when it comes to money and taxpayer dollars, but either she or her close subordinates used government power to try to settle a personal vendetta — if she did not do it, but her subordinate did (from the audio tape on record), she clearly should have fired him and did not. Given the Patriot Act, the enhanced surveillance and other powers being exercised by the federal government, having someone willing to use or tolerate the use of the power of the state for personal vengeance is pretty unsettling.


If you want to read the entire document, go to www.politico.com and click on the 100 Notables on Palin.
Some of it pretty much what you would expect depending on the point of view; this one I found interesting because it is from a ultra conservative entity and because it speaks to a different isue than what I've seen in most of the material.
 
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Will B

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Jan 5, 2006
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Do you really think Palin could have pulled off what Obama has done? Their number of years of political experience may bear comparison. For me, that's where the comparisons end.

Once again I raise my challenge for somebody to list three things of any significance that Obama has done. Getting elected to the Senate doesn't count nor does the nomination. What has he done for anybody that he has served in the Senate. Three things? Anybody?

Didn't think so...
 

NoHall

hmmmm......can't remember
May 28, 2007
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Not sure I follow what you are saying???

Only that folks can whine about inexperience on either side for only so long. We have a lot of former Governors (who were only former governors) end up in the White House, and a lot of Representatives/
Senators. The only people we've had with real "experience" in the Oval Office are the former VPs--Bush, Sr., Ford, Johnson...

George Washington was a general, for Pete's sake.

I can't believe I'm saying this (I'll deny it later) but perhaps the best we can do is put a good leader in the office--someone who knows how to find the right people to put around himself/herself and who knows how to delegate authority. Don't you think that's what the early presidents did, before they could pick up the phone and make a call or send an email? The entrusted certain other leaders under them with responsibilities. :dunno:
 

Chickpea

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Dec 15, 2005
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There is no right or wrong way to explore, and I may die before I get to India, but for now, I'm going to explore that which is around me. Last week, I led some people on a nature walk. We stopped to look at some deer tracks, while stopped, we saw raccoon tracks, then a walking-stick bug, then an ant-lion, then a frog, all while standing still for ten seconds. There is as much to see in the microscopic world around us, as there is in the entire world, if we just take the time to look. Someone once talked about seeing the world in a grain of sand. quote]
And that power of observation and deep kindness you have is what makes you so appealing!!! SJ: I hope you realize that as passionate as I am about travel I will not judge those who do not - I understand that there are multiple reasons one cannot do as they would please.

But what has shocked me is the sheer number of people I do meet who are so quick to judge the motives and intentions of people around the world they know nothing about.... all they know is that they want America's will to be imposed at whatever costs to others - you know that awful saying MIGHT makes RIGHT.... 8 years of this has just done so much harm.
 
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