No offshore drilling

[organicmama]

I thought you might enjoy this article. Fontova is one amazing dude from the north shore in Louisiana. He doesn't have any use for the radical environmentalists or PITA and some will probably find him too edgy but his book Helldivers Rodeo is a captivating read about spearfishing in the Gulf. He's been railing against the good Florida folks about the anti-drilling stance and makes some very compelling arguments for opening Florida to drilling.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70901

It seems to me that he might know a great deal more than you are willing to acknowledge. A little advice - focus your efforts on ensuring the least intrusive, safest and most environmentally friendly drilling process for the Florida coast. Push that Florida receive a large cut of the poceeds and that those proceeds be used to position Florida as a leader in alternative energy for the future. I'll be alot more impressed with thoses efforts than seeing you stomp your feet and yell NO to something that is badly needed by the country at large and is going to occur regardless of your protestations - my final word.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=D6D498F0-3A9C-47AB-8F5D-D029420EFFFC

It's the same opinion coming from the same author. And it's just a bunch of opinions, no statistics & a lot of biotching about environmentalists. Please supply some decent, factual articles. Your first post was well thought out & I could somewhat sense where you are coming from. From there, it just doesn't make much sense.

 

[Bobby J]

Be gentle please.

BTW, I am not a democrat. That is part of the problem with politics. Lets turn this into a democrat, republican issue. We simply do not need to drill in the gulf. It is a common sense issue. I guess this is where the Republicans and Democrats have issues? Thanks, for letting us know where you stand on the issue.

 

[wrobert]

BTW, I am not a democrat. That is part of the problem with politics. Lets turn this into a democrat, republican issue. We simply do not need to drill in the gulf. It is a common sense issue. I guess this is where the Republicans and Democrats have issues?

I guess the problem is trying to get good information. We are already drilling in the gulf. If something happens off the coast of Alabama we are going to see the results in Walton County and the rest of Florida.

 

[organicmama]

My thought on the WHOLE issue is that we, as humans (particularly Western culture), have only been depend on oil for a very short period of time but we have used so much of it that now the "powers that be" are claiming more offshore drilling is the answer.

It takes time to build the rigs, so it's not a quick answer. There are no sure fire ways to prevent oil spills of any kind. Saying that one way of obtaining oil is better than another, at this point, stinks of the sewage in Bobby J's photo.

It isn't going to last long if we're already depleting other sources. We don't have an endless supply. We learned that in elementary school science, didn't we?

Why are people complaining about alternative, renewable sources of energy? Is it because they might have to give up their huge SUVs & loose a bit of their American, macho, it's my way or the highway attitude?

Blaming environmentalists & liberals for this fiasco is a joke. The joke began long ago, when oil was chosen as the energy choice for powering our lives.

Like Bob, I have been looking forward to the day that gas prices are high enough that there are no more excuses.

 

[organicmama]

BTW, I am not a democrat. That is part of the problem with politics. Lets turn this into a democrat, republican issue. We simply do not need to drill in the gulf. It is a common sense issue. I guess this is where the Republicans and Democrats have issues? Thanks, for letting us know where you stand on the issue.

I guess the problem is trying to get good information. We are already drilling in the gulf. If something happens off the coast of Alabama we are going to see the results in Walton County and the rest of Florida.

It's not a political issue. It's one of fixing mistakes of the past, but not with the same dirty bandaid.

 

[Bobby J]

I guess the problem is trying to get good information. We are already drilling in the gulf. If something happens off the coast of Alabama we are going to see the results in Walton County and the rest of Florida.

Soooo.... they should lift the ban? Your if is my whole concern. If means when.

 

[organicmama]

Soooo.... they should lift the ban? Your if is my whole concern. If means when.

My thoughts exactly, If we are already at risk, why heighten that risk? WRobert, your argument there makes no sense, except that you like status quo.

 

[greenroomsurfer]

Frankly, I think it does have something to with the discussion. If I read the letter correctly, the organization is willing to make some concessions on the environment to promote the sport of surfing on and around a pristine reef. I read another article that there is a heated argument about whether surfing should be having a championship tournament at that location because of environmental concerns. I think surfers (and the public in general) would be better served if the organization was consistent in looking at potentially harmful activities in our Oceans and seeking compromise that maximizes human benefit while minimizing adverse environmental impact. BTW, when you call people "greedy" and accuse them of drinking "Kool-Aid, it does absolutely nothing to convince those who differ from you, that your position has even a scintilla of merit. Many on this board are clapping wildly, but 70% of the population (including in Florida) think your wrong and you and Bobby ain't changing minds with the comments here (not hear).

This is the United States. Florida should not be at the mercy of congress. They are breaking the law everyday,(IMO) they are supposed to only meet twice a year. I go to Tallahassee twice a year to meet with legislators (all of them) and the only one I have found that is for offshore drilling is Patronis. His views may have changed, he is for commercial fisherman. Show me the #'S. I am assuming your either an engineer or a lobbyist for some company or really in a world all to your own.

 

[wrobert]

My thoughts exactly, If we are already at risk, why heighten that risk? WRobert, your argument there makes no sense, except that you like status quo.

Not trying to argue one way or the other. We should have addressed this problem thirty years ago. Now that gas and oil prices are going up we will finally see some alternatives come about. It is ashamed that we have been stuck on fossil fuels as long as we have. This country is better than that.

 

[organicmama]

Not trying to argue one way or the other. We should have addressed this problem thirty years ago. Now that gas and oil prices are going up we will finally see some alternatives come about. It is ashamed that we have been stuck on fossil fuels as long as we have. This country is better than that.

It is better than that and we have a responsibility to ourselves, our future generations AND the rest of the world. We are the biggest consumers in the world. It's so "Me, me me! What can I get for myself?" It's a hard habit to break, but at least we need to curb it.