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greenroomsurfer

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Nov 24, 2006
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Just remember who is driving this train of thought, the car manufactures and the big oil companies. Back to my belief in state an smaller government. Any time the government gets involved it screws things up. Any time someone brings up Republickin or Democraps it is a cop out or a moot point! If you wanna be controlled by big corporations or speculators keep thinking this way. This is the land of the free not the land of regulation. Welcome to SoWal a Gated community!!!!
 

full time

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Oct 25, 2006
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This is the United States. Florida should not be at the mercy of congress. They are breaking the law everyday,(IMO) they are supposed to only meet twice a year. I go to Tallahassee twice a year to meet with legislators (all of them) and the only one I have found that is for offshore drilling is Patronis. His views may have changed, he is for commercial fisherman. Show me the #'S. I am assuming your either an engineer or a lobbyist for some company or really in a world all to your own.

Because I don't happen to agree with your position, I now work for or am a lobbyist for the oil industry? Your organization could gain a little credibility (and maybe a little knowledge in the process) by inviting some guest speakers who are experts (both sides) on the issue of drilling off of Florida's coast to your next meeting. Ensure the speakers that it will be a fair, polite and open discussion. Then come back and tell us what you learned, and I'll listen and give it due consideration. In the meantime, I'll keep rolling my eyes which I'm sure is what the Legislators do (after you leave) after telling you whatever it is they think you want to hear.
 

ASH

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Feb 4, 2008
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You just hit the nail on the head. I see a major problem with society is they don't give a rats arse what happens tomorrow as long as they have today. Way too many people wasting way too much fossil fuels that have no clue that they are even part of the problem because that would require the use of precious brain cells they just can't spare.
Did I just say that! sorry
 

Romeosmydog

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Nov 6, 2007
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Be gentle please.
Wow, that post changed MY mind all right. I am a proud Democrat that almost voted for you. Thanks for the heads up on how you really feel about me and the members of my club. :wave:
 

organicmama

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Jul 31, 2006
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You just hit the nail on the head. I see a major problem with society is they don't give a rats arse what happens tomorrow as long as they have today. Way too many people wasting way too much fossil fuels that have no clue that they are even part of the problem because that would require the use of precious brain cells they just can't spare.
Did I just say that! sorry

;-)
 

full time

Beach Fanatic
Oct 25, 2006
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You just hit the nail on the head. I see a major problem with society is they don't give a rats arse what happens tomorrow as long as they have today. Way too many people wasting way too much fossil fuels that have no clue that they are even part of the problem because that would require the use of precious brain cells they just can't spare.
Did I just say that! sorry

Interesting you should say that. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if surfers on this thread were "wasting fossil fuels" by lugging their surf boards on top of automobiles to distant airports to fly off to far away places in order to catch the ultimate waves. Any of those here using "precious brain cells" on these surf trips care to fess up? BTW, I'd like to burn up some fossil fuel on that trip as well but I'm not hypocritical about it.
 

organicmama

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Jul 31, 2006
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Wow, that post changed MY mind all right. I am a proud Democrat that almost voted for you. Thanks for the heads up on how you really feel about me and the members of my club. :wave:

WRobert, I didn't want to say it, but she took the thought out of my head. Making everything into an issue of politics (and/or religion) alienates a ton of people because it puts an us against them tone into the mix.
 

ASH

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Feb 4, 2008
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Roosevelt, MN
I am not a surfer. Wish I knew how though.
I do agree that there are a lot of activities that do consume a lot of fuel getting from here to there. And it fuels the US economy and it should stand to reason, should be protected.
This is where I agree with the person who posted that we should not complain about $5 a gallon gas if we continue these activities. We need to accept the price, or come up with alternatives.
 

full time

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Oct 25, 2006
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I am not a surfer. Wish I knew how though.
I do agree that there are a lot of activities that do consume a lot of fuel getting from here to there. And it fuels the US economy and it should stand to reason, should be protected.
This is where I agree with the person who posted that we should not complain about $5 a gallon gas if we continue these activities. We need to accept the price, or come up with alternatives.

Here, here Ash and that brings us full circle. We need to agressively pursue alternatives but drill for oil domestically while we pursue and implement those alternatives which will take time.
 

Bobby J

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Apr 18, 2005
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Interesting you should say that. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if surfers on this thread were "wasting fossil fuels" by lugging their surf boards on top of automobiles to distant airports to fly off to far away places in order to catch the ultimate waves. Any of those here using "precious brain cells" on these surf trips care to fess up? BTW, I'd like to burn up some fossil fuel on that trip as well but I'm not hypocritical about it.

I think surfers are the first to admit that surf trips burn up a lot of fuel. If you follow surfing there are many movements in regards to this issue. But, how does this tie into drilling in the gulf. We don't need to drill in the gulf. Hello? You keep going back to your same point. I guarantee you I have a large carbon foot print. Not nearly as large as Al Gore (another issue) but it is large. I am fessing up. I also fessing up I am willing to pay more for gas if we can pass on drilling in the gulf. The point is we don't need to and it will not lower gas prices. I will print this for prosperity sake and if gas lowers because of drilling in the gulf, I will buy you a Prius.
 
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