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Rudyjohn

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the ultimate irony is that an expose of general religious stupidity would be taken personally, as if the offended were important enough to be the sole target. if you take offense at a comedian pointing out some ridiculous tenets of faith, then perhaps your faith isn't so grounded.
yes, that would be the point I am sure. If only they could recognize that.
 

Camp Creek Kid

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CCK,
Maher is tolerant of others. His ongoing thesis isn't that he takes issue with religious beliefs per se. It is that he has issue with folks doing crazy things because of them. He wants elected leaders to think their way through decisions rather than praying their way through them. He finds it scary that religion is so pervasive...

Consider this. Who is more tolerated around here? Someone walking around openly discussing their Christian beliefs or someone walking around discussing their atheist beliefs? What about someone walking around discussing their Muslim beliefs?

Maher's beliefs (or lack thereof) represent a silent minority in this country who dare not speak out too loudly...

I respectfully disagree with you. Maher is making fun of what HE considers "crazy" BELIEFS, not the crazy things people DO because of their beliefs per se. Isn't it one and the same? Maher is anti-religion and therefore his belief system (or religion because that is what religion is) is that religious people are crazy. Maher is not tolerant of others and you are fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Who is he judge what beliefs are or are not acceptable?

I hope that our elected leaders never stop praying because a person who prays recognizes that there is a greater power than themselves in this Universe. Many religious people are not tolerant of others' religious beliefs or lack thereof and that is certainly something that could be improved in this country. However, as I said, I have no respect of Bill Maher because he has utter contempt and disrespect for all religion and religious people. To have respect one must show respect.
 

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I have absolutely no respect for Bill Maher. He is like the middle school bully who makes fun of everyone different than himself so he will have a better self image. This movie is a blaring example of how Maher (and by association the audience that supports him), who claims to be a proponent of tolerance, has really a very limited tolerance for differences. The movie also is a blaring example of how the Left welcomes and supports bigotry.

The movie may be funny to those who share Maher's anti-religious views, but to a middle schooler, like Maher, making fun of disabled children is funny too. Bill Maher is welcome to live in his world of adolescence, but I'm content to stick with my grown up view of the world. His questionable editing tactics and limited "experts" of the different religions prove what a shallow and manipulative person that he is.


well, CCK, this may come as a total shock (ha ha ha) but I adore Bill. he is hilarious with a huge brain, imo.

however, you basically said the same thing about Rush L. in a not so recent thread (about how his awful rants are suppose to be humorous - I fail to see the humor but I guess some do - I think of him as Mr. Hate/Bigot/Bully), so it is really all about what you consider smart, right and/or wrong.

of course Bill can be totally outrageous, sick and crosses the line on a regular basis. and in each case his point is intelligently driven home with such insight. which is why some of us not only get him but practically worship the ground upon which he walks.
 
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Teresa

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npr fresh air interview
Bill Maher And Larry Charles, Getting 'Religulous'

"The message of Jesus," on the other hand, "is not only beautiful but revolutionary," Maher stresses. "The idea that the meek shall inherit the earth, and that the poor and the powerless have just as much dignity as the powerful and the rich, that was a very new idea at the time ? and it has not gone out of style."
 

Bob

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I respectfully disagree with you. Maher is making fun of what HE considers "crazy" BELIEFS, not the crazy things people DO because of their beliefs per se. Isn't it one and the same? Maher is anti-religion and therefore his belief system (or religion because that is what religion is) is that religious people are crazy. Maher is not tolerant of others and you are fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Who is he judge what beliefs are or are not acceptable?

I hope that our elected leaders never stop praying because a person who prays recognizes that there is a greater power than themselves in this Universe. Many religious people are not tolerant of others' religious beliefs or lack thereof and that is certainly something that could be improved in this country. However, as I said, I have no respect of Bill Maher because he has utter contempt and disrespect for all religion and religious people. To have respect one must show respect.
he's a comedian, and religion is an easy, multi-dimensional, target.. questioning one's very beliefs is an exercise of basic human existence. you don't need prayer to realize man is an insignificant cog in the universe...unless your religion instructs you to pray i suppose. i saw his interview on king, and he was the first to admit he had no answers to the unanswerable, but found comedy in those that had it all figured out "on faith". i can't see one comedic film about the strange aspects of religion being a threat to any but those who profit by mental conformity. i live in Orlando, And I must say "Holy Land" is worthy of a good laugh on many levels....next stop, the Elvis Museum!
 

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well, CCK, I adore Bill. he is hilarious with a huge brain, imo.

however, you basically said the same thing about Rush L. in a not so recent thread (about how his awful rants are suppose to be humorous - I fail to see the humor but I guess some do - I think of him as Mr. Hate and Bigot), so it is really all about what you consider smart, right and/or wrong.

of course Bill can be totally outrageous, sick and crosses the line on a regular basis. and in each case his point is intelligently driven home with such insight. which is why some of us not only get him but practically worship the ground upon which he walks.

I guess that you are implying that those of us who disagree with Bill Maher are not intelligent because we don't "get" him like all of you smart Democrats! And I guess that you are implying that I am a Bigot because one time I defended Rush Limbaugh when someone mischaracterized something he said (and I don't even listen to him often, but I do know how to use a computer and do a little research now and then). Boy, you sure got me good Tootsie. I'm just a dumb, bigoted religious slob. Think I'll go find me an unbeliever and beat him over the head with my Bible.

I'm glad you have found yourself a Jesus, I'll stick with mine--the original--who taught tolerance, love, and respect.
 

Bob

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I guess that you are implying that those of us who disagree with Bill Maher are not intelligent because we don't "get" him like all of you smart Democrats! And I guess that you are implying that I am a Bigot because one time I defended Rush Limbaugh when someone mischaracterized something he said (and I don't even listen to him often, but I do know how to use a computer and do a little research now and then). Boy, you sure got me good Tootsie. I'm just a dumb, bigoted religious slob. Think I'll go find me an unbeliever and beat him over the head with my Bible.

I'm glad you have found yourself a Jesus, I'll stick with mine--the original--who taught tolerance, love, and respect.
except for bill maher....he would be stoned!
 

Teresa

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I guess that you are implying that those of us who disagree with Bill Maher are not intelligent because we don't "get" him like all of you smart Democrats! ... glad you have found yourself a Jesus, I'll stick with mine--the original--who taught tolerance, love, and respect.

Please do not get so defensive over my own simple appreciation of B. Maher. My post was not meant to say anything about you or anyone, except Bill M. and my own opinion of him.

I was certainly not implying a single thing pertaining to your character - which I know first hand to be the best around. I was comparing your gut feeling about Bill M. to my gut feeling about Rush L. when I read your words about Maher - those were almost the exact same words I have posted about Rush. how very interesting, don't you think? it is not who is better or smarter or more bigoted- it is about how we look at things when coming from different life philosphies and perspectives. nothing more. please, do not be so sensitive. I would never say such things about you or anyone. on this board or in real life. but I will not hesitate to say them about someone like Rush who I truly could never appreciate, just as you could never appreciate Maher.

my intent was only a comparison of what we like or dislike. I've skipped over some smart alecky comments above because they serve no purpose in this or any conversation. but real conversational differences can still happen with respect. and that is what I enjoy most regardless of whether someone likes Maher or his movie or whatever or whoever.

Maher may get Jesus more than most. but that is another conversation. when I said some of us worship him, I was not serious. I'm just sorry I have to explain it out loud like this. most of us do have our own spiritual life with religious backgrounds - believe it or not.
 
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GoodWitch58

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I guess that you are implying that those of us who disagree with Bill Maher are not intelligent because we don't "get" him like all of you smart Democrats! And I guess that you are implying that I am a Bigot because one time I defended Rush Limbaugh when someone mischaracterized something he said (and I don't even listen to him often, but I do know how to use a computer and do a little research now and then). Boy, you sure got me good Tootsie. I'm just a dumb, bigoted religious slob. Think I'll go find me an unbeliever and beat him over the head with my Bible.

I'm glad you have found yourself a Jesus, I'll stick with mine--the original--who taught tolerance, love, and respect.

Oh my...just where are the tolerance, love and respect in your posts today?

T:dunno:
 

Geo

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I guess that you are implying that those of us who disagree with Bill Maher are not intelligent because we don't "get" him like all of you smart Democrats! And I guess that you are implying that I am a Bigot because one time I defended Rush Limbaugh when someone mischaracterized something he said (and I don't even listen to him often, but I do know how to use a computer and do a little research now and then). Boy, you sure got me good Tootsie. I'm just a dumb, bigoted religious slob. Think I'll go find me an unbeliever and beat him over the head with my Bible.

I'm glad you have found yourself a Jesus, I'll stick with mine--the original--who taught tolerance, love, and respect.

CCK,

Please slow down. You seem to be reacting as if folks are insulting you here but it really isn't the case. We disagree but that's okay. Why can't we talk more about our views to better understand each other???

I don't care for Monty Python films. If you told me that I don't like them because I just don't get the humor I would say- absolutely, you are right! There are a lot of things I just don't get (e.g. NASCAR, voting for Bush in the second election, etc.). The fact that I don't get these things isn't related to my intelligence or lack there of...

Please please stop speculating about what people are implying and instead read what they are saying...
 
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