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Bob Wells

Beach Fanatic
Jul 25, 2008
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2,857
Isn"t that what the cards are about? And what happens if someone doesn" want to be in it or can not afford to be? How can there be any bargining to be done? What is basicly held over the commissors head to get better pay? After all they are the ones that decide that. I know there is more to it than pay. I just have heard about strikes to get what you want and they can not strike. Just been hearing a whole different story as to what the PBA is that whats been on here. I also heard that there is no way to get this done before Jan and besides that the current sheriff's hands are tied on what he can do for the furtue and I woud think this would fall under that.

Church Mouse, the information as to process is available for you to view. It is in an earlier post. As to whether you have to join, the answer would be no, but at the same time I don't believe you have representation if the need were to arise.

Again LEO 101, you can say give the new guy a chance, but what if the new guy cleans house. It has to stop, it may as well be now. Hopefully your not one that gets the boot.
 

crazytimes

Beach Comber
Oct 2, 2008
24
3
So than why

should some pay and some not? Doesnt seem fair. Can't give some a benifit that you get for them and not the others. ANd the current sheriff can't make choices on a lot of things anymore.


If you do not want to be a member it will not cost you any money. This is some of the false information that is being put out. You can not strike and it will depend on how long it takes to come up with a contract. It is possible to have a contract in place before the first of the year. Some people are forgetting R J is the Sheriff until January, He is not a Lame Duck Sheriff. VOTE PBA!!!
 

leo101

Beach Comber
Oct 17, 2008
25
16
If you do not want to be a member it will not cost you any money. This is some of the false information that is being put out. You can not strike and it will depend on how long it takes to come up with a contract. It is possible to have a contract in place before the first of the year. Some people are forgetting R J is the Sheriff until January, He is not a Lame Duck Sheriff. VOTE PBA!!!

It almost sounds like PBA Rep is in Ralph's back pocket too....and I beg to differ with you, Ralph can not spend any more than 1/12 of the budget for every month he remains in office. Any bargaining or contracts he signs or agrees upon over and above that leave him personally libel. Now tell me he isn?t a Lame Duck.
 

WhoDat1

Beach Lover
Oct 23, 2008
154
56
Santa Rosa Beach
Any one that wants to know about the Florida Police Benevolent Association can go to www.flpba.org and surf the site.

I would'nt put too much confidence in any of these arumentative posts from either side (PBA Rep, Irish Eyes, etc.) See for yourself how the PBA works.

Besides, I'm not too sure that PBA rep is actually a PBA rep. Don't buy into these arguemenative posts, folks. You'll be playing right into their hands. CHECK THE SITE YOURSELF!
 

PBA Rep

Beach Comber
Oct 28, 2008
21
10
You are right WhoDat1, I should not buy into arguementative post, I'm not going to change their minds.
Bottom line Deputies is this, Don't gamble with your future, you need a contract. Some on here will continue spreading mistruths, spliting hairs, and trying to prevent you from voting on something that will benefit you and your family. Keep this in the back of your mind, why are they trying so hard to convince you into voting no? Just as WHODAT1 said check it out for yourself. www.flpba.org Again, my apologies.
 
If you do not want to be a member it will not cost you any money. This is some of the false information that is being put out. You can not strike and it will depend on how long it takes to come up with a contract. It is possible to have a contract in place before the first of the year. Some people are forgetting R J is the Sheriff until January, He is not a Lame Duck Sheriff. VOTE PBA!!!


This is about the most underhanded ploy I have ever heard of.:angry: For the outgoing sheriff ( who was totally rejected at the polls) to tie the hands of the new sheriff who will be popularly elected is just plain wrong. I think the employees will live to regret unionizing, but they have the right to do just that. Decorum dictates that they wait for the new sheriff to ride into town.
 

PBA Rep

Beach Comber
Oct 28, 2008
21
10
This is about the most underhanded ploy I have ever heard of.:angry: For the outgoing sheriff ( who was totally rejected at the polls) to tie the hands of the new sheriff who will be popularly elected is just plain wrong. I think the employees will live to regret unionizing, but they have the right to do just that. Decorum dictates that they wait for the new sheriff to ride into town.

Again some are trying to side step the issue and take it in another direction.

Deputies, If you get a good and solid contract, why should it matter if the contract was negotiated with the current Sheriff or a newly elected Sheriff? The end result will be the same. The Sheriff that is elected in 6 days may not be re-elected in 4 years and we are right back to where we are at now, if you do not vote the PBA in. It will mean peace of mind for you and your family. Remember Both Candidates for Sheriff have had the protection and prospered under a PBA Contract, BOTH CANDIDATES. The Anti-Union individuals on here are not saying anything about this. If having a contract was so wrong, why did neither candidate not stand up and say, "Hey, I want my administration to negotiate my benefits for me." Even one Candidate has used the PBA when he had an issue. Neither Candidate has turned down one benefit that the PBA fought and got for them. Think About it and VOTE PBA Also if you notice I end most of my Post with VOTE PBA
You Have the right to have collective bargaining, Now use it!!!
 

Irisheyes

Beach Comber
Oct 22, 2008
23
15
Becareful Irish Eyes, Please don't mis-quote me, besides you will be a Captain anyway, you will not be included in the bargaining unit, but setting that aside isn't it too soon, to be putting Mike in this position, the election isn't over yet, there is still one week before the votes will be counted, then you will be either celebrating or calling me see what we can do to speed up the process of getting a union in.:D


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WOW, A CAPTAIN !!!! NOW THATS FUNNY !! I for one never said Danny nor Mike was going to win this election. I simply said I was supporting Mike. I dont want collective bargining if Danny win. Why... Because I think Danny is a fair person as well. Dont come on here spreading lies about me that I am going to be a Captain (and we all know its lies, and its sad that you are fueling them) I have faith in a new Sheriff, whats wrong with that. If that doesnt work out then we could call the PBA in. Now if we all vote no on it, we will have to wait a year to do so. My whole issue with this is simply because of the fact that it was being pushed through so quickly, how the card were passed out, and the fact that the NEW SHERIFF whom ever that may be, should be apart of it. What is so wrong with that. What makes me so bad about wanting to give my new boss a fair shot. Nothing in my book.
 

PBA Rep

Beach Comber
Oct 28, 2008
21
10
Again some are trying to side step the issue and take it in another direction.

Deputies, If you get a good and solid contract, why should it matter if the contract was negotiated with the current Sheriff or a newly elected Sheriff? The end result will be the same. The Sheriff that is elected in 6 days may not be re-elected in 4 years and we are right back to where we are at now, if you do not vote the PBA in. It will mean peace of mind for you and your family. Remember Both Candidates for Sheriff have had the protection and prospered under a PBA Contract, BOTH CANDIDATES. The Anti-Union individuals on here are not saying anything about this. If having a contract was so wrong, why did neither candidate not stand up and say, "Hey, I want my administration to negotiate my benefits for me." Even one Candidate has used the PBA when he had an issue. Neither Candidate has turned down one benefit that the PBA fought and got for them. Think About it and VOTE PBA Also if you notice I end most of my Post with VOTE PBA
You Have the right to have collective bargaining, Now use it!!!


Don't let them side step the issues!!! FACT Both Candidates have enjoyed the benefits of having a PBA Contract, FACT Both Candidates have never turned down even one benefit that they have received under a PBA Contract. FACT Neither Candidate has stood up and said, "Hey I want my adminstration to negotiate my benefits for me. DON'T BE MISLED, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, NOW USE IT!!! VOTE PBA
 

Irisheyes

Beach Comber
Oct 22, 2008
23
15
Any one that wants to know about the Florida Police Benevolent Association can go to www.flpba.org and surf the site.

I would'nt put too much confidence in any of these arumentative posts from either side (PBA Rep, Irish Eyes, etc.) See for yourself how the PBA works.

Besides, I'm not too sure that PBA rep is actually a PBA rep. Don't buy into these arguemenative posts, folks. You'll be playing right into their hands. CHECK THE SITE YOURSELF!


Oh I am sorry, You call coming on here and giving your opinion which is pro union and opinion. But you call me coming on here giving mine which is against it "fighting" I find that a bit unfair. People on this forum want to know how we feel. They are only getting one side of the story. I have a right to get on here and state how I feel with out it being an arguement. :blush:
 
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