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WaltonProud

Beach Crab
Oct 9, 2008
4
2
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This post is not in support of Griffith or Adkinson. This post is not in support or against the PBA. I am currently serving the people of Walton County and have been doing so for almost two decades .To say that there are changes needed in the Sheriff?s Office , would be a understatement. I have had little time to research the pros and cons of PBA collective bargaining and it appears that this issue is moving at a fast speed. I have read several of the post on the PBA topic and I see that some of you have a better knowledge of the capabilities? of the PBA. I would like to ask a question for an answer or a referral to some one who can give the correct answer.

The Office of Sheriff is the only Law Enforcement Branch that is in or State Constitution .The authority of the Sheriff is backed by Title 5 Chapter 30 of the Florida State Constitution. The question I have is, if a stalemate develops between the PBA and the Sheriff and the Sheriff invokes is authority under Chapter 30.53, does the PBA have the strength to over ride and make change to the State Constitution?

30.53 Independence of constitutional officials.--The independence of the sheriffs shall be preserved concerning the purchase of supplies and equipment, selection of personnel, and the hiring, firing, and setting of salaries of such personnel; provided that nothing herein contained shall restrict the establishment or operation of any civil service system or civil service board created pursuant to s. 14, Art. III, of the Constitution of Florida.

Thanks in advance for any information
 

The Watcher

Beach Fanatic
Jul 5, 2007
366
88
Danger

Wow!!! At the false information being placed here :dunno: First off, why would other deputies, be trying to intimidate and scare other deputies into making a decision not to unionized based on what you think might happen??? Both Candidates for Sheriff have enjoyed the benefit of working under a contract provided by the PBA, I don't think either one ever turned down any pay raise or benefit that they received as being part of the Union. In fact I believe one of the candidates has even used our services when he had an issue happen. Deputies you will be given the chance, so you will not have to live in fear of who ever the sheriff may be from this vote on.... You no longer serve at the pleasure of the Sheriff, so you do not have to secretly support whom ever you please. You don't have to worry about coming to work in January and the NEW SHERIFF saying you no longer work for this agency. How fair is this to you and your family? The Sheriff will have the pleasure of putting anyone of the fear-mungers here on this blog as a Captain or higher in his administration without the PBA saying anything. We are not adversarial with either of the two candidates for Sheriff, but having said this we will stand up for the Deputies, Investigators, Sergeants, and Lieutenants when it comes to their rights being violated or being unfairly terminated. Ask yourself this question if the incoming sheriff wanted to take care of his people, why would he be opposed to his deputies having the right to collective bargaining? I'm quite sure that both candidates will read this blog and I hope they do. For who ever is using scare tatics, bullying, and threating other employees, Stop it. How many deputies have heard the story that so and so is gone when the new sheriff comes in office? What if it is you next? VOTE IN THE UNION AND THE FEAR WILL GO AWAY!!! Again, I can't stress this enough, the Sheriff can't just come in and say, you no longer work here. Both Candidates know this. I read in an earlier entry that one candidate is going to fight us (PBA) in the courts, I would hope that he would not, but if he so chooses bring it on... But it will be him not us, being adversarial not the PBA. It will be a binding contract that will benefit his employees, so if he wants to waist money that he could use to pay his employees better, that's his right as Sheriff.
When the Vote happens, NO ONE WILL KNOW HOW YOU VOTED UNLESS YOU TELL THEM, NO ONE WILL EVER FIND OUT UNLESS YOU TELL THEM. You will be able to come in go to a booth, that has a curtain all the way around it, then you will vote and place your own ballot into a sealed box with only a slot cut into the top, you will place your ballot into this box. Then the PERC Elections Officer will shake the box up after the polls close and the Sheriff's representative, PBA Representative will observe while the PERC Employee counts the YES votes and NO votes. If you vote the PBA in we will be your collective bargaining Agent and you will no longer have to worry about a job every 4 years. I hope this has cleared up some of your concerns and false information that has been put out. If you want to talk with me my number is 1-800-733-3722 or ask around in the Department my cell number is on my business card. VOTE YES FOR THE UNION


Mr. PBA Rep.

First question: Are you actually a formal rep for the PBA and if so, please advise your Staff Rep Area.

I sincerely hope the PBA understands that many potential members (Law Enforcment) and their families fully know that your "invite" to Walton County was orchastrated by Ralph Johnson. Johnson will be leaving the office as one of the most ineffective, underhanded, disliked and all around sorry excuses for a public servant I personally have ever seen. Your organization is being placed directly in the middle of an agenda set forth by Ralph Johnson to undermine the success of Mike Adkinson Jr. Please do your homework and realize this.

With that said, Mr. PBA Rep, understand that I personally support both the PBA and the FOP (directly and indirectly). The timing of this approach of the officers in Walton is very suspect. If your organization intends to maintain its credibility with people, you will look at the current situation here and understand. It is as simple as looking at your supporters vs. those keeping hush and those opposed. They are almost completely drawn on lines of Johnson and Adkinson.

I recently read in the local paper, "a response" from Ralph Johnson about this whole issue. What I found amazing is that this is the first time Johnson has said anything without his Parrot speaking for him. Why is that?, because its all about him and ego. PBA benefits him at this point. It sets the stage for the few of his less then desirable "friends" to remain in gainful employment and continue to do nothing but collect a pay check, at our expense. Let these "friends" have the opportunity to make it on their own. They will not succeed, they are poor performers, coasting along...
Where were Ralph Johnson's comments when budgets were questioned? Where were his comments about the two officers he fired for being pregnant?

Oh, that brings up a good point. PBA Rep., if you are a PBA Rep., please let me (and Walton County) know how your organization would have handled that situation, should one or both of the female deputies have been under your "guard"? Please address that, you don't have to use WCSO as specifics, but I would like to know how your organization would have handled representing a pregnant female officer, recently terminated, for being pregnant. Answer that and realize that the man behind your mysterious appearance was directly responsible for the termination of two pregnant females (Law Suit Pending).

Again, just to review so you do not feel this as a personal attack, it is not meant to be, I am just tired of "Watching" Ralph Johnson and a handful of malcontents continue to ruin our local law enforcement.

In 2009, Walton County will have a new leader in its Sheriff's Office. One of two men will take the position of Sheriff. I believe (and I support) Mike Adkinson will be the winner.

Regardless of who, the new sheriff elect needs the ability to fix what is broken.

What is broken is the department, starting at the TOP, not the bottom.

Ralph Johnson broke it and then broke it again.

Ralph Johnson is still trying to break it.

This directly effects the employees and the citizens of this County. This must stop.

As part of Ralph Johnson's continued juvenile behavior, he now supports bringing a "Union" into town. (Something that would have NEVER happened, should he been sitting as Sheriff). This is known as hypocrisy, Ralph's middle name.

The employees making the most positive noise about the "Union" are poor performers, concerned about their "Protector" Ralph, no longer having control of the wheel of a car that was driving on flat tires and no auto insurance.

Many feel that whomever the new sheriff elect is, they should have the chance to implement their own policy, procedure and performance standards, thus, setting the bar for our WCSO to become one of the best in the State.

Unfortunately, the continued antics of Ralph Johnson and his "children" continue to lower the bar and not only make the current administration continue to look like a kindergarden class, but they demoralize the officers, upset the citizens and now there is the potential for your organization's credibility to be dug in mud here in Walton County, Florida.

Do us (the citizens) a favor. Let the new Sheriff take office and prove or disprove himself to the officers and the citizens. I have said it before, once a new leader takes control, if things do not improve, I will be one of the first to support a collective effort.

Thank you,

W
 

WhoDat1

Beach Lover
Oct 23, 2008
154
56
Santa Rosa Beach
whatever.....I consider your assumption that those of us that support a union are cronies of Johnson or poor performers an insult. I was just trying to do my part to bring the WCSO into the 21st century and end the rule of small town politics in law enforcement. I'm done trying to convince anyone. Those of you not in this business don't understand and you never will. Those of you in this business that don't want it, enjoy your honeymoon period with the new Sheriff. You want your Hazard county? Keep it.
 

crazytimes

Beach Comber
Oct 2, 2008
24
3
Feeling the same way

but one has to wonder why this is being pushed so hard so fast. I for one believe that those at least most of them have to go. Whats the problem they still get the pay. A new sheriff would not be able to trust a few of them and if this is why it is being pushed that is just wrong.



whatever.....I consider your assumption that those of us that support a union are cronies of Johnson or poor performers an insult. I was just trying to do my part to bring the WCSO into the 21st century and end the rule of small town politics in law enforcement. I'm done trying to convince anyone. Those of you not in this business don't understand and you never will. Those of you in this business that don't want it, enjoy your honeymoon period with the new Sheriff. You want your Hazard county? Keep it.
 

WhoDat1

Beach Lover
Oct 23, 2008
154
56
Santa Rosa Beach
This post is not in support of Griffith or Adkinson. This post is not in support or against the PBA. I am currently serving the people of Walton County and have been doing so for almost two decades .To say that there are changes needed in the Sheriff?s Office , would be a understatement. I have had little time to research the pros and cons of PBA collective bargaining and it appears that this issue is moving at a fast speed. I have read several of the post on the PBA topic and I see that some of you have a better knowledge of the capabilities? of the PBA. I would like to ask a question for an answer or a referral to some one who can give the correct answer.

The Office of Sheriff is the only Law Enforcement Branch that is in or State Constitution .The authority of the Sheriff is backed by Title 5 Chapter 30 of the Florida State Constitution. The question I have is, if a stalemate develops between the PBA and the Sheriff and the Sheriff invokes is authority under Chapter 30.53, does the PBA have the strength to over ride and make change to the State Constitution?

30.53 Independence of constitutional officials.--The independence of the sheriffs shall be preserved concerning the purchase of supplies and equipment, selection of personnel, and the hiring, firing, and setting of salaries of such personnel; provided that nothing herein contained shall restrict the establishment or operation of any civil service system or civil service board created pursuant to s. 14, Art. III, of the Constitution of Florida.

Thanks in advance for any information

1-800-733-3722 Ask for Hal Johnson, I think his name is. Or aske to speak with President Rivera in Miami-Dade. They could give you and answer. :D Hal is the senior staff attorney
 
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