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Smiling JOe

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What the hell does Obama mean that we need a civilian National Security Force, which will be as "well-funded as our military?" Now that is scary, and pricey.
 

John R

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That, and the fact that the their definition of alternative energy excludes nuclear power. Apparently, nuclear power is OK for France but not for the good ole USofA.

fulltime, where do you get this stuff from? it's pure gold.:clap:
How do you consider it not ok for the good ole USofA when we've been nuclear for almost 40 years and there are plants in 31 states?

what is the best, most secure plan, in your opinion, for the storage of spent rods? cite as many sources as you wish.
 

Smiling JOe

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On a similar note, let me remind everyone that just because another country is okay with something, doesn't mean it is safe. China doesn't seem to have problems with children's toys made of lead.
 

full time

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fulltime, where do you get this stuff from? it's pure gold.:clap:
How do you consider it not ok for the good ole USofA when we've been nuclear for almost 40 years and there are plants in 31 states?

what is the best, most secure plan, in your opinion, for the storage of spent rods? cite as many sources as you wish.

What possible good comes from arguing about meat consumption with a vegetarian?
 

Bob

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What the hell does Obama mean that we need a civilian National Security Force, which will be as "well-funded as our military?" Now that is scary, and pricey.
it's mission will be to round up all the angry white people after the election....thay will have a choice of idaho or alaska for the interment camps.
 

BeachSiO2

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what is the best, most secure plan, in your opinion, for the storage of spent rods? cite as many sources as you wish.

How does other countries (we can pick France) deal with theirs if they use so much nuclear power. Maybe we can learn something from them? :dunno:
 

John R

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How does other countries (we can pick France) deal with theirs if they use so much nuclear power. Maybe we can learn something from them? :dunno:

I have no idea, that's why I asked. I'm not sure there is a best scenario. None of us will be around long enough to find out. And of course fulltime will just sulk in the corner.
 

30ashopper

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I have no idea, that's why I asked. I'm not sure there is a best scenario. None of us will be around long enough to find out. And of course fulltime will just sulk in the corner.

They recycle them and reuse the fuel to make more rods. The residue is buried at the recycling plant, which makes up less than 5% of the original fuel.

The problem with recycling is that it is not yet cost effective. France subsidizes it's recycling, and the power grid is state owned, so monetary loss is irrelevant to them. They went nuclear because they have no natural resources, and feared being held hostage by eastern Europe over resources. They were right, as we've seen recently with Russia.

http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/wb/174362
 

30ashopper

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What an easy (and untrue) swipe to make - so easy to brand us all as anti-business environmentalists. But what a crock of ----......

Most of us have been disgusted and have deplored the fact that for the past 8 years, we have basically been at a status quo for developing alternative energies (actually we have lost precious time) and we have done practically NOTHING to curb our demand for oil - and yes, other countries are light years ahead of us in some technologies while scores of other countries have benefited from our addiction to oil - so let's please not be coy - to be remotely pro-active in this game we are going to have to change a lot of things about the way we live and we consume.


We've actually spent quite a bit of money on renewable fuels and incentives to do research. The famed Energy act of 2005 that has come up often on the campaign trail is a perfect example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Independence_and_Security_Act_of_2007

I haven't seen any studies yet detailing the effects of this. The total cost was around 100 billion.
 
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