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Matt J

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For some sects of Christianity, asking a Christian to be inclusive of all religious is sacrilegious. Their goal is to evangelize and convert. So, if this lady was doing just that, she may have a legitimate legal case against her employer for discriminating against religion. I'd hate to be a lawyer and have to argue either side on this one, knowing only the snip-it I've read on here.

Yes, and if IIRC you're supposed to try to convert someone 2 or 3 times (can't remember the exact number). After that you're supposed to walk away. Based on the article and the news story I watched she wasn't following the rule even at 3.
 

organicmama

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For some sects of Christianity, asking a Christian to be inclusive of all religious is sacrilegious. Their goal is to evangelize and convert. So, if this lady was doing just that, she may have a legitimate legal case against her employer for discriminating against religion. I'd hate to be a lawyer and have to argue either side on this one, knowing only the snip-it I've read on here.

:blink:SJ, I think that'd be hard to do because if she tried to convert everyone she came in contact with while on the clock, she'd be the one who was discriminating... which would be stomping on other people's religious freedoms. I don't see how that could be justified at all. So, on the flip side, if a non-Christian tried to convert a Christian to another religion while on the job, wouldn't the proverbial s*** hit the fan?

I just wish people would be respectful of all religious/spiritual beliefs.
 
:blink:SJ, I think that'd be hard to do because if she tried to convert everyone she came in contact with while on the clock, she'd be the one who was discriminating... which would be stomping on other people's religious freedoms. I don't see how that could be justified at all. So, on the flip side, if a non-Christian tried to convert a Christian to another religion while on the job, wouldn't the proverbial s*** hit the fan?

I just wish people would be respectful of all religious/spiritual beliefs.


How in the world is saying "Merry Christmas" an attempt to convert anyone to Christianity? Is saying "Happy Haloween" an attempt to convert people to wican? My goodness, the point of this is that the lady was fired for some other reason and is trying to invent a cause to make a buck.:bang:
 

beachmouse

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The Freedom article describe the personnel issue as

Andy Phillips, president of Counts-Oakes Resorts Properties Inc., told The News Herald Thomas wasn't fired for saying "Merry Christmas," but for several episodes of insubordination and "gross misconduct." He declined to provide examples, other than to acknowledge that failing to adhere to the company's greeting directive, which began the day after Thanksgiving, was one of the problems.

The Fox article chopped the heck out of the original version of it.
 

Miss Kitty

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Smiling JOe

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:blink:SJ, I think that'd be hard to do because if she tried to convert everyone she came in contact with while on the clock, she'd be the one who was discriminating... which would be stomping on other people's religious freedoms. I don't see how that could be justified at all. So, on the flip side, if a non-Christian tried to convert a Christian to another religion while on the job, wouldn't the proverbial s*** hit the fan?

I just wish people would be respectful of all religious/spiritual beliefs.

That is an interesting point. I have thought of it from only the employer/employee standpoint, since no customers are apparently filing suit. It is illegal for the employer to discriminate based on religion.

If the employee's attempt at conversion was simply done by wishing everyone a Merry Christmas, I'm not sure that any customer would have a legitimate case against her or the employer for discrimination based on religion, especially if this wish was made after the sale/purchase. If the store sold the goods to the customers, I think she would be in the clear. Now, if that clerk said Merry Christmas to everyone in her line, and wouldn't sell to the people who didn't reply with a Merry Christmas, there would be lawsuits won, left and right.

Merry Christmas!
 

shellak

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the employer has the right to decide what message he or she wants an employee to use, with the exception of something illegal or vulgar. i say "happy holidays" all the time because it is inclusive. i do not celebrate christmas but when someone says "merry christmas" to me, i just accept it and wish them "happy holidays". why people have a problem with inclusiveness in a public forum baffles me. as for your friends and family, say whatever you want. but please stop telling me its disrespectful to use "happy holidays". i'm with the other sowalers that think there is more to this "merry christmas" story by this lady than meets the eye.
 

Smiling JOe

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Nov 18, 2004
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How in the world is saying "Merry Christmas" an attempt to convert anyone to Christianity? Is saying "Happy Haloween" an attempt to convert people to wican? My goodness, the point of this is that the lady was fired for some other reason and is trying to invent a cause to make a buck.:bang:

I believe she was replying to my premise asking "what if" the employee believes/claims that saying Merry Christmas was a subtle way of attempting to convert non-Christians to Christianity, and therefore the employee would be protected from being fired by her employer.
 
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